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Fixed watermist fire fighting systems are being installed in more and more merchant ships in machinery spaces (engine rooms) and as such are approved by classification societies (Lloyds, DNV-GL, BV etc) as replacement for the traditional inert gas systems (CO2 & the newer FE36).
A advantage of a watermist system over inert gas is you would not have to thoroughly ventilate a confined space (engine room / hole for example) after the system has been activated and the fire put out, to remove the inert gas before entering the space.
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Are the flecks soft or hard? Soft would suggest the flecks are dirt / slime falling off the sides / bottom of the tank, hard flecks would suggest the coating is breaking down and falling off.
If the former you may well get away with a super chlorination clean of the tank (see my reply post #3 in "Water tank" in Equipment discussion). If the latter follow up with re-coating as suggested by springy above.
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Its been a quite a few 'mango seasons' since I have had to go into fuel tanks, however I recall they were only prime coat treated (welds were not coated) and in some cases although the ships were quite old, they were all in good condition.
FW (Pot Water) tanks were coated with bituminous black paint (similar / same as hull blacking?), I am guessing this is what you mean by bitumen, rather than tar / asphalt. If so I suspect it would be very difficult to remove (without abrasive grit blasting it off).
I would check with a paint company representative to see if it is necessary to remove (assuming it is bituminous paint) or not. Hopefully you wont have to remove it as it would be a nasty, dirty and possibly very hazardous job to remove the coating and safely dispose of the waste.
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We did Ashby & return from Rugby base in 4 days as our first nb outing in July 2012.
We managed to get to the end and back with time to divert down to Coventry for lunch on the return leg, and had a great time.......only problem is it seems to be very addictive this narrow boating business☺
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I am intrigued by the sign in MtBs post No.295.
This would have to apply to all boats including hire and shared, and therefore puts people using these boats latter in the season / year at a disadvantage if other uses have already used up the boats 14 day quota.
How does the conversation go in this case when the the newly arrived boater contacts the waterway office "Im terribly sorry sir / madam your boat has already been registered at this location 14 days this year, you have to move on"?
I an certain I read in another post in the past week that C&RT were quoted as saying words to the effect that that once a boat had returned to its mooring / hire base and then departs on its next voyage that the clock starts again?
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I'm thinking that all C&RT volunteers and staff /employees should have photo identity cards with their name, unique ID number and position within C&RT (volunteer, grass cutter, enforcement officer etc) and be required to present their credentials if engaged on official business (much the same as police officers etc do) and / or dealing with the public.
At the same time anyone confronted by an alleged C&RT volunteer, employee / staff member should also ask to see (if not presented) their credentials and record these details along with the time & place of encounter along with notes of topic discussed.
I realise these actions may well seem onerous (especially to laid back boaters) but this is possibly the only way of proving one way or the other what is really going on in some of these interactions between boaters and C&RT personnel.
I suspect that if some are "over stepping their mark" and engaging in bullying or harassing behaviour, this will help "pull them into line".
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Waaaaah?... its back to work tomorrow. Is it too early counting down for next year??
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Each to their own ...... why not do one or the other and soak in the scenery then enjoy the other route another year?
Alternatively add three days to your holiday and squeeze in London and The Thames as well?
Whatever enjoy your holiday.
Edited twice times because the site keeps duplicating every line.
Don't know if the above post is in response to my original query, if so we have already completed it.
We have been considering the "Grand Ring" for a couple of years now (was temporarily disappointed that hire boats were barred from the Thames - now lifted), so it is back on the cards again, however we are also considering incorporating visiting steam rail museum (Stourport /SVR -etc) as well, so lots of options for next year.
Rgds Woodsy
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We did Stratford upon Avon from Alvechurch & returned through Birmingham via GU in 7 days last year (spent 1 day at Stratford sight seeing) other than the locks being the hardest to work that we have encountered (including this years cruise) we had a great time, although we did work long days to fit it all in.
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Once again thank you for the above advice and comments, we both enjoyed ourselves.
We have just returned the boat back to the hire base having completed both the Four Counties (anti-clockwise) and the trip to Llangollen, we managed to spend a day at Llangollen looking at the sites and still made it back with time to spare.
Now for next year..........
Rgds to all Woodsy
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I agree with Blackrose (post 36) & Alan Saunders. I will occasionally use the centre line for mooring with as an additional assurance, but then the hire vessels I have taken out usually only have 3 mooring lines.
It would appear that the detractors main concern is that the boat may / will heel excessively or capsize / tip over if the centre line is used for mooring.
While agreeing under certain circumstances the vessel could / would heel to an alarming angle (causing damage, spillages & possibly injury etc). Is there any records or information regarding narrowboats capsizing / tipping over, solely because the centre line was used to moor the vessel in conjunction with the standard bow & stern mooring lines?
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Must be the "Calm before the storm" in Market Drayton, overcast with a light drizzle. Debating whether to continue on towards Norbury Junction or to lay-up for awhile. I don't need to be back at Gailey until Fri AM.
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Approaching Chirk aquaduct last Friday we passed 3 canoes, the lead canoe had one occupant and the following 2 canoes with 2 ocupants each were lashed together catamaran style with aluminium poles and rope. All 3 canoes had pulled over to the side to let motorised traffic past, the most disturbing part was that a young child was in the "catamaran-ised" canoe in the centre of the canal with adults in the one closest to the bank. I would have taken a photograph but was too concerned for the consequences if I lost concentration while passing them.
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Same for me - currently can only see 4 posts starting with MTB's "TESTing". Thanks anyway for getting the forum running again.VNC for me only shows the posts since the restore.
Sorted -just noticed the "By time period" default setting had changed to "Past 24 hours"
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Currently on Llangollen having picked up some time going anti-clockwise on the four counties from Gailey mostly on advise from this forum. I am glad I had asked the question (four counties & Llangollen in 2 weeks) and certainly appreciate the feedback given.
RgdsWoodsy
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Hope to be heading that way Tuesday afternoon / Wednesday morning ourselves.
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The following information is extracted from "The Ship Captains Medical Guide 22nd Edition" pp85 to 89 & can be downloaded from the internet, or purchased.
Disinfection of The fresh water tanks and distribution system by super chlorination.
Disinfection of FW tanks and distribution system should be done at intervals of not more than 12 months.
Chlorine compounds that may be used: Chlorinated Lime, high test Hypo-Chlorite or commercially prepared Sodium Hypo-Chlorite solution. (The actual dosage information for the different compounds are tabled)
Introduce the chlorine solution into the nearly empty tank and immeadiately fill to overflowing, open taps & outlets and allow the water to flow until until you can smell the chlorinated water, care must be taken to ensure the pressure tank is filled with chlorinated water.
top up drawn off water until the tank overflows again, chlorine should be added to make up the concentration in the tank to 50ppm (50mg/litre).
The chlorinated water should remain in the tank & distribution system preferably for 12 hours but not less than 4 hours. Drain and flush the tank and distribution system until the water no longer has an objectionable taste of chlorine.
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Once again thank you all. Your information is greatly appreciated........only problem is we still have over 3 weeks before we start?
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Hi Dave,
Thanks for your opinion, after reviewing all of the above, I am fairly certain we will go anti-clockwise and see how we go.
Thank you all who have responded with your thoughts / ideas they are all appreciated.
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So general consensus would be to go clockwise, and if there are unexpected delays on the Trent & Mersey 1 or 2 hr days should put me back on track again.
That wont be a problem (did bottom of foxton to Weedon Bec in 1 day - only problem was the missus stopped talking to me after we cleared Buckby until we stopped for dinner at the Heart of England)
So general consensus would be to go clockwise, and if there are unexpected delays on the Trent & Mersey 1 or 2 hr days should put me back on track again.
That wont be a problem (did bottom of foxton to Weedon Bec in 1 day - only problem was the missus stopped talking to me after we cleared Buckby until we stopped for dinner at the Heart of England)
That should have been 1 or 2 10hr days
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Hi thanks, based on ditchcrawlers experience it would appear to be best to either forget the Trent & Mersey, or diverting down the Llangollen. Have just been reading "stuck on the Pontywotsic aqueduct" in general boating, which appears to only reinforce ditchcrawlers comments.
Hi Rob, my thinking was if going clockwise and I was seriously delayed on the Trent & Mersey leg I might not be able to get the boat back on time.
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Thanks much appreciated, (Canalplan did say 7hrs), so will continue planning on that basis.
I assume comments about good and bad places to stop from previous years posts will still be valid?
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Hi all,
We (husband & wife) have booked 2 weeks out of Gailey in late May, Canalplan & hire company websites suggest that the Four Counties Ring & Llangollen can each be done in a week. My query is it feasible to go from Gailey anti-clockwise on the FCR, divert down the Llangollen and back at Hurleston Jcn to continue down to Autherley and finish in the 2 weeks, or should we go clockwise from Gailey to Hurleston Jcn, Llangollen and return (forget about the Trent & Mersey this year)?
Long boating days don't bother me (relish them to be honest). The main reason for going to Llangollen is we really want to cross over the Pontcysllte aqueduct.
Concerns that I cannot answer from Canalplan or boating guides are if delays at Harecastle and locks are likely in late May, and if so will they seriously impact my first plan?
Obviously when we get to Hurleston Jcn I will know if we have enough time to divert, but if we don't have enough time it will be too late to change to a new cunning plan.
We appreciate any advise given & hope I have given enough information in this my 1st post.
Rgds Woodsy
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That is the problem, some (if not most) smaller certification / authorisation bodies are so behind when it comes to approving new technology.
I must admit while I have been aware of the large fixed watermist systems installed on merchant ships this is the first
I have become aware of the portable ones in the OP, and was quite impressed with the demo video.
Unfortunately it will most most likely be quite some time before the portable watermist fire extinguishers become acceptable - similar to the time it took wet chemical extinguishers for deep fat fryers to be acceptable?