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  1. While not canal related, I am aware that some members hire boats on the Norfolk and Suffolk Broads, or take their own boats to visit, or may even keep a boat there, so this may be of interest to them. The Broads Hire Boat Federation (BHBF) have sent an objection to the DfT, under S31 of the Harbours Act 1964, to the level of tolls imposed by the Broads Authority for the 2023/24 season. The grounds for objection can be seen in the attached notice. The tolls went up by 13% over the previous year.


    A group of private owners have collectively sent a similar objection. They have a FB group, with over 1,300 registered members, the Broads Reform Action Group (BRAG), where further information may be found https://www.facebook.com/groups/1402368430170302


    May I ask any members who have been, or may be, affected by the tolls increase, either through paying a toll themselves directly, or through increased hire costs, to write to Paul.Sharpe@dft[.]gov[.]uk to give their support for either or both of the objections. (Please remove the square brackets from the email address.)


    Thank you.






  2. No, they WANT to introduce a charge at Reedham, but they lease the quay from Broadland District Council and BDC don't think a charge would be lawful and have told the Broads Authority to provide legal evidence that it would be. The present lease, which expired in 2002 and has been 'held over' since then, says that there can be no charge imposed for the first 24hrs. The latest from BDC, as of today, is that they don't agree to a charge being imposed.

    9 minutes ago, Naughty Cal said:

    They have also introduced mooring charges at Reedham Staithe.

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  3. Be aware, particularly if you want to eat in the pubs, that, like everything else, mooring costs are going up. For example, the Swan Inn at Horning charges £10 between 11am and 5pm and £20 from 5pm onwards and overnight (not refunded against food), and at Ranworth Staithe, a popular spot for boating visitors as it has the Malsters pub, St Helen's church tower and the Norfolk Wildlife Trust Visitor Centre, and was previously a free mooring, the Broads Authority has imposed a mooring charge of £5 (10am - 5pm) and £10 overnight.


    Please ignore the bit on the photo that says 'Broads National Park'. The Broads is NOT a national park, and never will be. It's just that we have a delusional Chief Executive.


    Ranworth charges.jpeg

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  4. 33 minutes ago, robtheplod said:

    is the charger at fault?  do you have any other devices you can test?

    ^^^ What he said. I had the same problem. Turned out the charging cable had developed a fault - probably an internal break in the wire. New cable and several years later, still going strong.

  5. 59 minutes ago, David Mack said:

    But until you get a critical mass of charge points pure electric boating (as opposed to hybrids) will only ever be a niche activity e.g. for day hire boats.

    Quite right. There have been fully electric day boats for hire on the Broads for years. But when it comes to the weekly hire boats, there are only a very small handful (fewer than half a dozen) available. The best of these will give an estimated cruising time of up to 5 hours, but that will be very dependent on cruising speed and tidal conditions. When the battery runs down, the generator kicks in! They do have solar panels fitted, but, on a day like today, overcast and raining, probably worse than useless. So, in practical terms, it's necessary to find an overnight mooring with a vacant charging post available - which rules out many, many popular rural 24hr moorings, and, of course, the 'wild' moorings and mudweighting.

  6. 5 hours ago, ditchcrawler said:

    The BA have been installing electricity points at a much higher rate than ether SRT or EA for years.  https://www.broads-authority.gov.uk/boating/facilities/electric-boat-charging-points

    As one who sails on the Broads all year round, I know from experience that they aren't installing any new charging posts. a) they can't afford to and b) all the easy locations have been installed. At the height of the season, you'd be very lucky to find a vacant connection. For electric vessels to be anywhere near viable on the Broads there would have to be a charging point for every 24hr mooring space. It ain't ever gonna happen.

  7. 40 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:


    I'm not talking about 'electric charging bollards' I'm refering to the huge infrastructure in the North East, (hydrogen generation and bunkering) Manchester /Cheshire (feeding Hydrogen into the gas mains system) and Oxforshire (Ammonia synthesis) to name just a few.


    I'm sure with a little research you could find all the details - and maybe even more.

    Your opening post was Broads-specific. As I only do my boating on the Broads and you wish the discussion to be about commercial shipping, I'll leave you to it.


    As I said at the outset - click bait.

  8. 34 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:


    Yes they do and their plans are published with time tables :


    3 key dates 


    2025 - all boat built must be capable of being converted to zero emission propulsion

    2035 -only zero emission propulsion boats can be built

    2050 - only boats with zero emission proulsion systems can be used on UK waters (Inland and coastal)


    Just one extract from the document :


    By 2025 we expect that:  All vessels operating in UK waters are maximising the use of energy efficiency options. All new vessels being ordered for use in UK waters are being designed with zero emission propulsion capability. Zero emission commercial vessels are in operation in UK waters.


    The fact that both inland and costal waters are included is mentioned several times in the document.


    You posted that 2 years ago. Reading up on it, it seems to be aimed at commercial vessels rather than leisure boats. In any case, it's an expectation rather than a commitment.


    Some (very few) Broads hire boats are being built with electric motors for propulsion (and diesel generators to boil the kettle). The public charging infrastructure provided by the Broads No-Authority at some of their 24hr public moorings is totally insufficient to support such a change. Many of the more popular moorings are so remote that the cost of providing charging facilities would be prohibitive.


    It is often said the the CEO would like to see all powered vessels removed from the Broads. If that happened the Broads tourism industry would simply die. Boat tolls provides him with over half his income. Turkeys voting for Christmas spring to mind.


    "The government has pledged to end the sale of petrol and diesel cars by 2030, but similar plans have not yet been set out for boats that use fossil fuels."


    That's from the EDP article.

  9. Each of the four UK nations have got their own rules. I'm commenting on the rules for England as they stand, not as they may be in the future. There is much speculation in the media about the direction in which we may be heading, but it is just that - speculation. No confirmation from HMG yet.

  10. 33 minutes ago, David Mack said:

    If you can employ the boatyard where you moor to do any necessary preparatory work, then it is not essential for you to travel to fulfil the legal obligation.

    One could also say that, if one can pay to have all one's shopping delivered (or even get it delivered for free), as one can with all the supermarkets, businesses that have an on-line shop as well as a physical shop, etc., it is not essential for the vast majority of the population to go to Tesco, Waitrose etc., but that activity hasn't been prohibited, or even questioned.


    The legislation (enforceable) only says, "No person...may leave or be outside of the place where they are living without reasonable excuse." It sets no limit on the distance that may be travelled, nor does it require the travel to be essential.


    The guidance (unenforceable) says, "...If you need to travel you should stay local – meaning avoiding travelling outside of your village, town or the part of a city where you live..."


    I was offering the OP a possible answer to his problem. It would be for him to decide whether, in his particular circumstances, that answer is appropriate or not. Since he has now revealed he would have a 4.5 hr drive to get to his boat, I wouldn't say it was appropriate, but it might be for someone living closer to their boat, facing the same situation

  11. 13 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:

    But as been previously mentioned Marinas are not 'public spaces' so how can you justify visiting a "private outdoor place to winterise your boat", hardly :


    a) Public space

    b) Recreational activity

    I wasn't particularly trying to justify going to a marina to winterise a boat. I was pointing out that the guidance you quoted was so full of flaws as to be unreliable.

  12. 4 hours ago, Alan de Enfield said:

    Maybe this will help focus the mind :



    People in England now face £200 on-the-spot fines for leaving their house without a ‘reasonable excuse’.

    New laws to enforce the month-long lockdown include the power for police to impose the penalties across the land.

    Under the law, in force until December 2, no person may “leave or be outside” the place they are living without an excuse set out in law.

    The place where you are living includes your home, garden, passages, stairways, garages and outhouses.

    But it doesn’t include second homes or holiday homes, and the law has an exemption for people who are homeless. Protests are also not allowed.


    If the fine is paid within 14 days, it halves to £100. For repeat offenders it doubles each time, up to £6,400.

    Police don’t need to prove you broke the law to give you a fine - only to suspect you did so. That means you could find yourself fighting a fine in court.


    If you do go down this route, you’d have to prove you had one of the following reasonable excuses.

    And if you lose a fight in court, you’d get not just a higher fine, but also a criminal record.

    So it’s important you know the law. Here’s the list of reasonable excuses in full:

    • If it is ‘reasonable necessary’ to “buy goods or obtain services from” businesses that remain open - either for yourself, household members, or a “vulnerable person” or their household member.
    • To withdraw or deposit money in a bank or building society or similar business.
    • To “take exercise outside”, either alone, with members of your household or support/childcare bubble, or with one person from another household. Under this exemption, there must just be two of you in total - though kids under 5 don’t count towards the limit.
    • To attend a place of worship (though they’re only staying open for private prayer).
    • To attend a Remembrance Sunday event.
    • To visit estate or letting agents or show homes; view properties to buy or rent; prepare a property to move, buy, rent or sell; or move house.
    • To visit someone in your support bubble or childcare bubble. A childcare bubble is when two households join together for informal childcare for a child under 13.
    • To pick up takeaway food or drink.
    • To visit a waste disposal or recycling centre.
    • To attend work, education or training, or provide voluntary or charitable series, if it’s not reasonable to do so from home.
    • To provide care or assistance to a vulnerable person.
    • To provide emergency assistance to any person.
    • To fulfil a legal obligation, including attending court or satisfying bail conditions.
    • To access social services, DWP services, victim of crime services, and asylum and immigration services and interviews.
    • If you’re an elite athlete, to continue training or competition.
    • To seek medical assistance, including to donate blood, attend medical trials or take Covid tests or a vaccine.
    • To avoid injury or illness or escape risk of harm.
    • To be with a mother giving birth, at her request.
    • To visit a household, close family member or friend who is being treated in hospital, a hospice or care home (local rules on visits permitting).
    • To attend a support group, including for domestic abuse victims, addicts and LGBT people, or provide or receive respite care.
    • To visit a household, close family member or friend you reasonably believe is dying.
    • To attend a funeral or wake, or burial ground or garden of remembrance, though there are limits on the numbers who can attend.
    • To attend a marriage or civil partnership, but again there are strict limits on numbers.
    • To allow children with separated parents to move between those two parents’ homes.
    • There are also certain exemptions for children in care and those preparing to be adopted.
    • To visit a vet.
    • To walk or otherwise exercise your pet.
    • To return home if you were on holiday before the lockdown came into force.
    • To visit a close family or friend in prison.

    I read this site a lot, but, as I am based on the Broads, rarely post. But I can't let this pass without comment. It is incorrect in so many ways, being someone's loose interpretation of guidance from who knows whom. I won't list the inaccuracies, but urge members to read the regulations for themselves. They're written in plain English and are simpler to understand than some of the convoluted guidance that's doing the rounds.


    Just two particularly important points from the quoted guidance:


    1. "Police don’t need to prove you broke the law to give you a fine - only to suspect you did so." Totally wrong -  the regulations say:


    "21.—(1) An authorised person may issue a fixed penalty notice to anyone that the authorised person reasonably believes—
    (a) has committed an offence under these Regulations, and
    (b) is aged 18 or over."


    "Reasonably believes" is a far stronger requirement than "suspect".


    2. The guidance totally ignores a very important (to boaters) exemption, "to visit a public outdoor place for the purposes of open air recreation". A public waterway is considered to be "a public outdoor place", and all forms of boating, from paddleboarding to motor boating, are considered to be "recreation".



  13. 20 hours ago, cuthound said:


    Calcutt Boats have a windmill for their logo and specialise in BMC engines. 




    If the OP's boat has a BMC engine, then perhaps they could help.


    The engine is a GM 1.6D


    19 hours ago, PaulJ said:

    As your dial face/bezel  looks to be in pretty good nick  have you considered swapping just the internals over ? Wouldnt be that hard if its a standard size.


    If the tacho proves to be defective, it will be replaced with some other brand. I have a Yazaki hour-meter and VDO (also Yazaki-made, I believe) oil pressure and water temperature gauges, so the replacement is likely to be a VDO tacho, which will match in with the others.


  14. 5 minutes ago, Tony Brooks said:

    The Isspro logo has certain similarities and they make diesel tachos





    I know what you mean about the logos, been doing much the same myself.

    Yes, similar, but not the same, and what can be seen of the damaged label doesn't lend itself to ISSPRO. I wondered if it might be an old DURITE, but their current logo is nothing like, and the name appears on the front of all their current gauges. Of course, they may have have a different style 30-odd years ago, but I can't fine that either.

  15. 28 minutes ago, WotEver said:

    I tried a bunch of different search terms in an image search to find that logo with zero success. As you say, someone must know - the 80’s isn’t that far back. 

    Thanks for trying. I found a website dedicated to logos and trawled through thousands, with the same result. I'm hoping that someone, somewhere, recognises the logo, or has a similar gauge (with an intact label) fitted in their boat.

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