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2 hours ago, Henry said:
There is a big chance she may still be there if not she will be in gas Street basin
I remember Erebus in Gas St. basin when Bill Brookes first had it - 40ish years ago......
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12 minutes ago, magnetman said:
I think part of the value of the DM2 unit is that they were the original unit for the Grand Union Canal Carrying Company motor boats. RN could not produce enough units so the National oil engine company manufactured the same engines under license.
This makes a Russell Newbery DM2 a "proper narrow boat engine".
I really like JP listers as well but they don't have the same kudos.
So yes I think they probably are over valued and its possible that over time this value will be lost because fewer people will know or care about the history anyway.
I would not expect a DM3 to have a historic kudos value as they were not used in narrow boats as far as I am aware. More likely to have previously been in sea going vessels (DM3 rather than D3) which introduces other problems .
ISTR the "Chiltern" had a DM3 in it's latter day Leicester Canal Transport life. Also short boat "Irwell" had one.....
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Older generations of boaters also called them "hanging up" plates......
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2 minutes ago, X Alan W said:
Great video one thing that surprised me was the fact that Mr Withey didn' t appear to load the 2 "joshers down by the head an inch or two I think as late as 95 it would have helped with the ease or other wise of the steering ,no doubt about his boater heritage max revs & oil rod wide open= misfiring exhaust bark & plenty of smoke Had an ex boater who wanted to show me how to get around Suttons in one Same Mo full throttle oil rod open wide bags of revs /clouds of smoke & he rammed the wall on the Coventry side & then blamed the boat can't remember the problem with less revs & a more cautious approach I more often than not made it in ne if there were no bats tied outside the "Greyhound"
Unless I'm mistaken the motor appears to have been trimmed early on in the trip so that it is more level - certainly down at the stern at the start!
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10 minutes ago, roland elsdon said:
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Im waiting til my neighbour )who i am reliably informed is slowly rebuilding his hb 2 is finished ,) when hes sorted out the reduction box ill nip next door and swap engines one dark night.
Should be a straight swap...
Hope his warranty hasn't run out, might have a heart attack....!
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Has the warranty on the engine run out...……..!
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That's an accepted way to slow the boat, easier to climb the steps than climb out of the lock.
While we're boating on the southern GU, if you haven't seen this look out for the Pisces, and Jim Collins at 1.36 -
https://player.bfi.org.uk/free/film/watch-summer-outing-1966-1966-online
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Plenty of old boaters to be seen, most of whom now all gone - I think Ron ( plus Brenda and Alice) is the only older one seen who is still with us.....
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2 hours ago, X Alan W said:
It could have been at Marple in 66 but think it"s home base was Norbury for the 68 season it failed its BOT test the fore end was held on by not much more than expanding foam.Norbury bought "Bellearophon" from BW & I went from Norbury to Hillmorton to tow it back for them it was fitted out & renamed "Iona" The girl who took over the steering of "Iona 2 wanted some where to live with her boyfriend I don't know the details of the deal but on a trip for Coronation Street filming I towed Iona 2 to Preston Brook & at the same time towed Iona 1 to Shebdon winding hole it was there for a time but during Hotel Boating passing Shebdon it had gone could have been 69 or 70 but could be wrong no idea were it went just some time later it had sunk /re floated but on lifting out for repairs/renovation several essential bits broke off IIRC Bnny Bunford (ex Gifford was some how involved) but no idea how although he & his wife were friends with the lass that worked the trip boat & as far as I know it was abandoned & broken up From other posts it seems it lived somewhat longer as Pete says long time past
Nope that's the renamed Little Woolwich Iona 2
It only came to Marple for the rally there. ISTR having a ride on it behind the "Hyperion", - which may have brought it there - and it went away soon afterwards.
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Further to this, I've just unearthed an old Waterways magazine, Sept/Oct 1957, which refers to provision of pilemaking workshops at Hillmorton - perhaps they couldn't keep up with demand!
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- so this must be before Hillmorton started making their own piles?
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52 minutes ago, X Alan W said:
Possibly after the demise of BW's carrying fleet i remember using it on the bottom locks delivering a load of piles to the Hillmorton yard mid 63 IIRC
You've aroused my curiosity - wasn't that like carrying coals to Newcastle?!
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3 hours ago, Paul H said:
Not strictly pebble dashing but BW did go through a period of spraying concrete on bridges known as guniting. It is difficult to see how a Prince would be a suitable boat for this as the bow would have been too high. I am told that the various Joshers which had their bows replaced by punt-like structures such as Columba, England, Mullet etc. were known as gunniting boats.
incidentally Jay Price posts on Facebook and Mark Holtham apparently lives in Worcester if you’re chasing up previous owners. Bill Blaik’s address can be found on the Companies House website.
Paul
They were also used for work inside Harecastle tunnel
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Going further back, I recall seeing "Prince" at Lapworth , when owned by Jay Price, back in the early 70s, without an engine. Mark Holtham bought it and fitted a Petter PJ3 - does it still have this? Amongst other things, he used it from time to time for taking the joey boat containing scrap wood from Warwick up to Stockton for burning. He sold it when he had built a Pimblotts look-alike called the "Nelson" - actually I think he swapped it for the "Sweden" and a butty, whose name escapes me!
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I had a trip up the Welsh canal in 1962 - the boat we were on had engine problems so when Jack Roberts overtook us with the "Margaret" he hung us on behind. He said then that well-meaning people were always calling out the RSPCA thinking that it was cruelty to make the horse pull a boat - what would they have said about a loaded pair of one-horse boats! My Dad was no stranger to horse boats, he had dealings with them some 27 years before that...……...
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I used to know Joe Grantham, he then lived in Coventry, and he had amongst others "Tackley" (old cement works boat I believe) and also "Rose of Sharon". Used to tell some good tales, eg having boathorses ex-army that would only respond to military commands!
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Thanks for the update!
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Any news on this yet?
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On 05/07/2018 at 23:24, pete harrison said:
I have transcripts of the Cardex system for the 'British Waterways' South Eastern Division fleet and the details are given as:
National 2DM 18½ @ 1000, Brunton 2:1 reverse/reduction gearbox, 3 blade left hand propeller 24’’ diameter x 17 pitch
I'm not disputing that's what may have been fitted, but there were many boaters such as my old mate Bob who were forever putting their boat on the cill and giving the blade a bit more lift - he would have done it to mine given half a chance!
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1 hour ago, Graham and Jo said:
There doesn't seem much on the S&W on canal planner apparently Brettell Lane Bridge is tight on the Stourbridge, canal planner says 6 ft for the canal so I guess it is that one.
Cheers Graham
Whittington Horse bridge, below Kinver, is much the same headroom as Brettell Lane
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How about the "River King" from Stouport?
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IIRC Bloomfield stop was only of wooden construction so must have been relatively easy to remove.....
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1 hour ago, springy said:
Today on site - work progressing at a pace - access road laid, culvert excavated, as I left another pump was being placed to clear the water from the actual culvert excavation
springy
- but can we trust CRT will check this roadway is removed properly...……
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This boat was notable for having the last Petter PD2 in BW ownership, being removed as a running concern when the boat was rebuilt at Bulls Bridge in the 80s. This is the engine now in the "Darley"
Smethwick Engine restored
in History & Heritage
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Well said - engineers don't get their hands dirty.....!