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2 minutes ago, Wizzer said:
///regime.traps.shared
I have done it from here before. Bit if a walk but doable with a pub for refreshment afterwards.
We usually moot on the embankment. Its a pleasant 10/15 minutes walk to the town and well worth it. We like Nantwich.
Howard
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26 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:
Then there are at least 2 of us.
Add one more
Howard
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30 minutes ago, Goliath said:
Yes Ive always thought similar and have never worn one even out sailing on the sea
but..may be it’s an age thing for I’m beginning to think a bit different 🤷♀️
and I’m perhaps becoming a wuss
You're not a wuss. You are just getting older and wiser!
Howard
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24 minutes ago, magnetman said:
I've never worn a lifejacket on canals, rivers or tidal Thames. Including using my little launch in red boards below freezing conditions.
I suppose its an odd view but I believe safety gear can make one less careful. I'm an advocate for a spike in the middle of a steering wheel rather than an air bag..
If I fall in and drown so what? Probably won't happen but if it does then it was meant to happen like everything else which happens.
I could see the point if at sea and there were other people around as it might extend your survivability but I don't buy it on inland waterways.
Someone had a go at me when I had the kids (both under ten at the time) in the dinghy with no lifejackets.
They were obviously trying to transfer their risk management strategy onto me.
Of course I have been on boats continuously for 30 yars and had a dinghy for ten yars before living on a boat so I suppose for someone less accustomed to boats it might be wise.
SPLOSH!
I also saved a life when I was 15 and sunk our dinghy with 5 younger teenagers on board and no lifejackets. I assumed they could all swim !
The conversation between my mother and one of the girls' parents was quite amusing. They were under the impression everyone had lifejackets. My mum did not disabuse them of this belief as clearly the kid had said she did have a lifejacket !
And no-one died.
That is obviously your risk assessment and presumably you are happy to take the consequences if anything happens.
However, complacency can skew reasoning. A few years ago my wife and I had to save a man sailing single handed on a canal (I won't say where to avoid embarrassing him). He fell in, possibly aided by the excessive alcohol he had consumed while steering his boat along the canal. Although it was midsummer he became extremely cold within less than 20 minutes and couldn't help himself. In the end it took both of us plus two passers by to get him out of the water and into an ambulance and he was lucky that we were nearby. We met him when he returned to his boat and he had indeed the medical team looking after him in A&E said been very lucky to survive.
Howard
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2 hours ago, tree monkey said:
It's a personal choice/risk assessment but what did supprise me is how deep a section of the Walsall canal actually was when I voluntarily went in, standing on some debris of unknown origin the water was up to my chin.
The above waffle basically means don't be too quick to scoff, not that I will be wearing one but I am a little more cautious now
I totally agree that it is a personal choice after making a risk assessment. One further important point to consider is that if you strike your head or otherwise injure yourself when falling in, or you are incapacitated through sudden illness etc, you may be unable to get out of the water unaided. A lifejacket may be your savior. I would never criticise anyone who decides that it is better to be safe (and alive) than sorry.
Howard
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57 minutes ago, Tony Brooks said:
It seems that you may think that the Thames and the canal system are administered by the same authority and in the same way. They are not, you need different licences, although you can get a gold licence that covers both. The banks of the canals are basically owned by CaRT so their rules are what matters and they have minimum cruising distances that might make your plans re work difficult. Ignore these rules at your peril and be assured that if you do then your boat may well be taken from you.
On the Thames, every inch of the bank is owned by someone, who are free to impose any mooring conditions they feel like, so you get daily charges from £5 to £15+. Not all impose mooring fees, but those locations that do not are likely to be very full of others living on their boats. Some towns allow free mooring but strictly time limited and there are free Environment Agency 24 hour moorings, but they are not a lot of good when working.
The K&A around most "easy access" points with car parking and/or public transport are also likely to be full of people doing similar to what you plan and in the west CaRT seem to be getting a bit keen to enforcing their terms and conditions on distances moved etc.
57 minutes ago, Tony Brooks said:All this has been rehearsed several times before on this forum, so your posts do suggest a certain naivety about matters pertaining to actual boating, rather than mooring. I suggest spending a few weekends visiting the areas where you think you would like to moor to see the conditions on the ground. Unfortunately, there seems to be a growing trend of newcomers jumping in with both feet by buying a wide beam boat without realising that there are additional issues with them that a reasonable knowledge of navigating on waterways as suggested by hiring might help them to realise that these boats come with many additional issues. Please consider taking a couple of holidays on one of the many hire boats available before jumping in too prematurely. When you know a little of the issues involved it is even possible to hire a wide beam on certain canals - the Leeds and Liverpool for example ( Silsden Boats). One invaluable piece of boat owning lore is that you buy your first boat and find issues, buy the second and you get someway to satisfaction but it is the third boat that is really the one that will suit you.
Good luck in your search for the one that will suit you.
Howard
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2 hours ago, 999 Neets said:
So would a pilot actually drive your boat or would you follow them?
Pilots are on board the boat to advise but it is the master (skipper) who is in charge and responsible for the safety of boat and crew. As far as continuous cruising is concerned have you read the guidance on continuous cruising on the CRT web site? If not I would recommend that doing so at an early stage in your planning.
Howard
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1 hour ago, Alan de Enfield said:
GRP 'boats' are normally conventional 'boat shaped' and in proper 'boat proportions'.
No one in their right mind would produce a square box, 7 feet wide and 7 feet high x 50 - 60 -70 feet long. No aesthetics and can only be described as a 'sewer tube'.
Some of the designs for those large continental river cruisers you see advertised on TV can give our sewer tubes a run for their money. Totally without character, soulless, and the nearest thing I have seen to the "Box shaped vessel" which, for those who have studied stability for sea going certificates, will be a familiar term when being taught the basics of stability.
Howard
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37 minutes ago, Boomaroo said:
Its not a wind up ,I have water running down the rails on the front door hatch and leaking into the barge ,if someone else has had this problem and fixed ut I would grateful for the help
Why not find the location of either the nearest chandler or DIY shop. Explain the issue to them and take their advice about what type of sealant to use.
Hope that helps
Howard
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10 minutes ago, Boomaroo said:
Barge door leaking
...and???
More information is needed and what are you asking?
Clashed with Jen in wellies!
Howard
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Unless the intention is for stage 2 to extend the search area there seem to be a lot of locations imissing as you go further North. For example, Hull Marina, Goole Marina's (2) South Ferriby Marina, a few on the Trent etc. Many more in the North which are too numerous to mention.
Howard
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I once had a similar problem when buying a car. I think the limit on daily transfers was at that time £12000. I gave the bank a call and after going through the usual security checks and explaining what the payment was intended for the bank arranged for a transfer which took place within a few minutes.
Howard
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2 hours ago, PeterF said:
There are some share boats like this, syndicates with originally 6 or more owners where when one of the owners wants to sell out, one of the remaining owners have bought out the share until there are perhaps 3 owners. I also know of one boat bought new by an owner who found they did not use it as much as expected and sold a half share, one owner has it for spring to mid summer and the other for mid summer through autumn. Finding such shares for sale may be more difficult.
You might like to have a look at the following web sites which specialise in share boat and especially both have a wealth of information about the ins and outs of how it all works. You may find some tips which may help you if thinking about setting up a small syndicate. .
https://boatshare4u.co.uk/index.asp
Howard
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I think you may have a great deal more difficulty in finding many share boat syndicates that are willing to do this. In many cases a share boat is just like any other privately owned boat that just happens to have more than one owner, and to do what you suggest would certainly entail a lot of cost in meeting the more stringent costs of a hire boat company - insurance and safety aspects for example. A syndicate is usually used year round by owners - most shared boats are used more than hire boats for example during a year - and even if they were willing to contemplate such an arrangement I would suggest that there may not be any way your suggestion could be slotted into the syndicates owners bookings.
Howard
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Just noticed that I gave you the wrong web site. Try this one
https://www.watersidemooring.com/329-brighouse-basin-l1
Howard
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35 minutes ago, blue mick said:
That's very helpful
Thinking maybe I should delay my plans slightly to save more money and gain more learning
Been told this morning theys a boat yard in Brighouse were I'm working, does anybody know this place, I might visit it tomorrow
That's a very good idea and might save you a lot of heartache and hard work! There are many housekeeping jobs you need to get to know as well, like water and where will you be able to fill up winter as well as summer. Toilet waste disposal. Fuel replenishment. Battery charging, especially in winter. You are not allowed to run an engine to charge batteries after 2000 if in earshot of other boats, and most marinas will work on the same principle. At your chosen marina can you carry out repairs and especially their rules about tradesmen. All these sort of things need thinking about before you decide on a particular marina.
Brighouse Marina web site is :-
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Just in case you havent seen this here is a link to some information about the marina.
https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/directory/34836-frenches-wharf-marina
Howard
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14 minutes ago, blue mick said:
I live in the north near manchester, I intent to have it moored at a marina near a train station of work purposes.
Somebody I was speaking with said if I more it each week I would avoid council tax.
So I think just cruising up a down the local canal, certainly not constant cruising
No don't know much about boats total beginner but so was everyone once
Thanks for that. May I suggest that as well as asking here why not visit a few moorings in your area and speak to as many boaters as you can so that you can get a feel for what might be involved, and who knows, you may get invited to go for a trip or two.
Howard
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8 minutes ago, blue mick said:
Yes I'm a painter and decorator so I think a lot of cosmetic work would be fairly easy, it's the electrics and engine that's more of a concern.
I intend to live aboard monday to friday.
So with it being a GRP would the hull for a boat of this kind of age likely be good?
I assume that you will be working so have you thought about whether you will be a continuous cruiser or are you looking for a mooring? What part of the country will you be based? Do you know anything about boats or is this just a pipe dream because so far you haven’t given enough detail to get relevant and realistic advice.
Howard
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1 hour ago, ditchcrawler said:
Well I am a member of NABO and IWA but maybe I am not most boaters
Same here.
Howard
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3 hours ago, MtB said:
That is not however, what the OP asked about.
To answer his actual question, we need clarification about which he means. A self-drive hire boat or rent it out as an AirBnB or someone's home.
Very true, I was just trying to be helpful and possibly save the OP a waste of his time if it happens that he was thinking of renting out to earn an income, not realising that there may be some hurdles to jump which may put him off.
Howard
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17 hours ago, KEVIN121C said:
Hello All,
Can anyone recommend a boat mooring or Marina which allow you to rent your own boat out from in the West Midlands area or as close to as possible please .
Why don't you just cut to the chase and ask CRT for their advice on what you need to do to comply with their requirements. That way, at least you shouldn't have any issues with such as insurance requirements, CRT licence requirements etc. It might also be useful to ask your marina of choice what their views are.
You may get many different views on this forum and at least you will know what the official view is, and whether what you are proposing is possible or not..
Howard
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1 hour ago, BoatinglifeupNorth said:
Isn’t it just the Inland Waterways Association?
No it iwas initially a joint interest between IWA and NABO but the ere are many other organisation also involved. They are listed in the press release.
Howard
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5 minutes ago, Andyaero said:
What would be a usual/standard....... if such a thing exists....... length of galley, dinette, saloon, bathroom, bedroom on a 60' cruiser stern with cratch?
You could get a crude idea by looking at the brochures of some hire companies. They mainly offer cruiser stern boats, and you could modify layouts to suit your personal preference.
Howard
Life jackets, really?
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Better look like one than to be a dead one.
Howard