Moisha

UGGGGHHHH. to do or not to do......... I suppose since most of our requirements are dc-based, dc will be much more complicated, but simply not as dangerous. It turns out my husband-to-be has some wiring/sauldering experience. So we will try to be very careful in insulaiton and calculations and see how it goes. I think saving a few hundred is worth spending a couple of days poring over electrical manuals. All your advice, however, is endlessly appreciated.

The site in itself is a manual by which one could go!!! Thanks! I am pretty sure we have the most basic sailaway possible, but I did email LB just to make sure. m

Great! But the course does not begin until january and we shall not live in the dark until then. I think we will hit the books, lure some electrically savvy people with tea-biscuits, and try to figure it out that way. But do expect questions along the way--I am sure to be confused. moisha

Thanks, Chris. No we didn't order any extras, so I suppose none of the wiring would be in. I just thought that it is a given that this would be included (from the way Joh put it) and since I know close to nothing about boats, I thought I was unaware of something. Like I just realized today after talking to LB that our foam insulation presupposes wooden battons--made my day!!! I think we should give it a couple of days of studying and do it ourselves. It isn't rocket science, after all (I suppose not). Will check out 'small boat electrics' and follow their lead. Perhaps te boat electrics class will be helpful. Thank you again and again, anastasia

Hi John, We are getting a LB sailaway, so I just do not know what will come with it. I do not think electrics are part of the package. Having absolutely no previous experience with electrics, I can both imagine being thoroughly confused or learning as I go--so no clue. Perhaps we can do it ourselves. We are both students and money is a novelty for us, so saving the loot and doing the work ourselves would be great. I just do not know how difficult it would be to do a dc and an ac circuit--an ac circuit with a 3-way changeover (inverter, generator, mains). I do not even know which materials to get--I suppose a chandler can enlighten me. moisha

Thinking and rethinking it, it seems a reasonable thing for us to do is to hire a professional who could do this for us. Because we a) don't want to spend weeks and weeks fiddling with the stuff, electrocuting ourselves, and c) burning down thge boat. Can anyone recommend an electrician who could wire a sailaway narrowboat? And also--I have no idea about prices. One guy quoted about 550 pounds for the job incl. Does this seem reasonable? moisha

Check out this discussion. http://www.canalworld.net/forums/index.php...ts+in+Congleton There is a recommendation for a paint seller who sells high-quality enamel for about a 1/4 of the standard 'international' price. Maclesfield paints in Congleton Riverdane Road, Eaton Bank Trading Estate, CONGLETON, CHESHIRE CW12 1PN Telephone: 01260-29882 Cheers, Moisha

Still nice.

NICE!

Just bought 2 nylon ropes each 10 meters on ebay--17q for both! Have I been rash?

Am I right to think that each mooring rope should be about 5 meters long?

Does anyone know of a reasonably priced supplier for both (or either?) Moisha

Thanks, Keith! I thought something like this may be true, but was not sure. anastasia

Thanks for the advice! We will try to convince our builder to throw in the wooden battens (does anyone with Liverpool Boat experience know whether they do this anyway?), but if not, we shall follow your advice. Also--what capacity alternator would you go for? It seems a shame to use all throse cruising time when we could be charging batteries? As regards heating: No--we will heat with a coal burner for now. Perhaps we can stretch a single radiator panel from it to our bedroom. I hope to survive the winter as we both have experience in winter camping.... Will keep you updated on the progress with details and pictures. Thanks for the tips--(in)valuable!

Thank you for the advice. But I can imagine that carpet would collect lots of dirt that would require vacuuming. Whereas I thin the floora may hold up if we give them a few layers of sturdy varnish. I am generally a bigger fan of wood than fuzzy things like carpets that tend to collect dust. Anyhow--all of this is really useful. Yours, Moisha, Esq.

So the sailaway NB is about to arrive in a week or so! It seems water tank priming, electrics and lining will be first priority. Although at first we thought in terms of hardwood for floors, but pine in 1/2 the price. Would you have any recommendations for treating pine. It is a softwood and I can imagine could get soggy on the boat. I think teak oil on the walls and perhaps hot wax on the floor? Perhaps we should have it pre-pressed or something, but again--I know almost nothing about it. Also--any recomendations for batten wood? We will have to fit it ourselves. I suppose we screw it to the metal battens-right? Also--we bought a petrol suitcase genny from which we will need to charge our batteries. I assume to charge batteries from engine we would need a strap-on generator--right? So is connecting genny to batteries pretty straight-forward or does it have to go through a charger? I suppose that's it for now. Will keep you updated on the progress. Moisha

Thanks a bunch for the suggestions. I found a filter system--one of the separate tap ones for 24 quid, so bought that. I'd like to not worry about water. Again thanks!

So our boat shall be ready in about 10 days...and we have decided to 'sail' our sailaway from Liverpool to Oxford. If we survive, I will report on the move. One--does anyone know how long such a trip may take? I estimate 10 days. Also--does anyone have any recommendations for a reasonably-priced ceramic water filter--one of those for a separate drinking spout. Cheers to all. Anastasia alias Moisha, esquire.

The price is indeed steep and I will have to chekc with them. We were given 600 quid with no insurance, etc. Are they trying to rip us off? Perhaps there are other ways of delivering a boat. Does anyone know of people who will sail the boat down from Liverpool to Oxford for a couple hundred quid? Anastasia

Oh yes--teh name is still up for grabs, but Tohu Vabohu is 'welter'n'waste' in a useless language (I was confused previously). I am now rethinking the name precisely because I will have to explain at all times. Any suggestions? Cheers, anastasia

Thanks for a warm welcome! Yours, Anastasia

Hello Daniel, I will obstain from posting in multiple discussions. But what am I getting wrong then--if the price (if we do not coordinate the use of a crane with others) is 600 pounds? Would it be cheaper to hire from an area firm than lend the use of crane from a boat yard? Anastasia alias Moisha

We will be putting a new boat into the canal some time in early/mid-November in Oxford on the Oxford canal. The rent is £600, but shared it is £350 per person. If anyone is planning to take their boat out (or put it in) in Oxord, contact us at 07769553179 or 07977542210. Chees, Moisha

We will be putting a new boat into the canal some time in early/mid-November in Oxford on the Oxford canal. The rent is £600, but shared it is £350 per person. If anyone is planning to take their boat out (or put it in) in Oxord, contact us at 07769553179 or 07977542210. Chees, Moisha

We will be putting a new boat into the canal some time in early/mid-November in Oxford on the Oxford canal. The rent is £600, but shared it is £350 per person. If anyone is planning to take their boat out (or put it in) in Oxord, contact us at 07769553179 or 07977542210. Chees, Moisha