Chertsey
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Yes my blog. Glad you like it. Plenty there from the last few years to see when your really bored.
Just making me envious about all the books I haven't got and never will have...
But it has prompted me finally - after five years - to email a former colleague and ask for my copy of John Seymour's Voyage into England back.
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Mmmmm... Just when I was starting to think no one was posting anyhting interesting lately...
Is that your blog by any chance Bookworm? It's a new discovery for me and certainly looks worthy of a browse.
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"The man that never made a mistake never made anything"
It looks as if I am in the minority, but whilst it is commendable that AF has made the apology, it is only 'right' that he has done so, why should anyone get all of those 'greenies' for correcting an error.
It reminds me of the 'old days' when as a company Director I fought long and hard against paying staff a 'bonus' for doing what they should do & 'clocking in on time' and not actually penalised for late arrival until they were a half-hour late 'clocking in'. I was also in the minority at that time.
I suppose what has come out of it was that at least AF has admitted that there was a 'closed facebook' discussion (where he thought the quote had come from) where the subject of banning members was discussed.
In conclusion - AF - you have acted honourably (as would be expected of you), but no 'greeny' from me.
Perhaps the greenies are not for doing it, but for doing it so well.
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Hee hee, you're on form today.
A Freudian slip or comment relates to Sigmund Freud and his methods of psychoanalysis, especially with reference to the importance of sexuality in human behaviour.
Goodness, you're very pedantic lately. I think the term is now used more widely (and may always have been) to refer to accidentally giving away one's unconscious thoughts on any subject by a verbal slip or incorrect choice of words.
Or it could of course have just been a typo.
Unfortunately most wooden buttys didnt tend to survive. Most got chopped in half or turned into motors or left to rott.
Motors tent to survive more as they hold a bit more value being able to be moved.
Yes, just what I was thinking. I wasn't aware of ever having seen one. Seen two or three motors over the years and I think a large butty or two, but no smalls that I know of.
I think there were twenty, if I've added them up right? Excluding the prototypes. Which isn't that many to start with.
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...I thought the Town butties were riveted steel not iron..?
Yup.
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Are any small Rocky butties extant, in any form?
Ooh, that was Freudian, Rocky being the dog whose name we changed to Ricky.
I'll try again. Are any small Ricky butties extant, in any form?
PS thanks for answers already received.
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Are any small Rocky butties extant, in any form?
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I hope PB won't mind if I elaborate... Through the good offices of No.2 Son's model railway shop, he has been given an unfinished, scratch built, 1:24 scale Small Ricky butty, complete with scaled drawings. This is very exciting.
First thought was to see if it could be made into a butty that had been paired with Chertsey, but according to the comprehensive record kindly provided by Pete Harrison, Chertsey has been paired with Small Woolwiches and Big Rickies, but never a small Ricky.
OK, it would be nice if it could be easily converted into Staverton, but if that's not a goer (I was inclined to think it wasn't likely to be) are there any particularly interesting little Rickies it could become?
I've only seen photos of it so far but it looks as if the hull is pretty much complete, and the foredeck (which would militate against putting another plank in), and the cabin bulkheads are in place.
Hope PB didn't mind me chipping in :-)
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So, reversing again then. That's where the danger lies, where the rudder may both be pushed violently sideways and has the greatest leverage.
But once you get into bad habits it's not always that easy to change your practice in different circumstances - particularly mid altercation.
Take whatever risks you like as an individual, but don't try to encourage others to do so.
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I am only following the example of CART (where you are) and the MLC (where I am). They deposit all their grass cuttings in the cut/ river*. What's the problem with doing likewise with weeping willow leaves/ fronds/ whatever they are? I assume that fish and ducks will eat most of them.
* O.K., except for the ones which they stick on the side of your boat.
They do not always set the best example...
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Allow a good day for it to settle down to ticking over nicely at a moderate heat. If you want to keep it that way riddle it gently and not too often.
You'll get loads of advice here but there's no substitute for just taking a while to get to know your stove and how it works with your chosen fuel. Might take a bit of trial and error at first to keep it in.
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It's not always practicable to do that. We do some pruning and lopping (the weeping willow over the narrow bit below Cropredy lock is one of our specialities), but there's a high wall between the canal and the garden in which that tree grows, so we tend to throw the clippings either into the water or into the towpath hedge bottom instead. I suspect that's what most people do.
Please not in the water!
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I know some people who carry serious pruning kit, including loppers and saws. The trouble is you need a big unconverted boat to remove all the stuff you've chopped off.
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How about this jigsaw?
The location is Little Bedwyn on the K&A, although, from recollection the church is a little further from the railway than is depicted. The Honey Street barge Unity was the last to operate on the K&A, being withdrawn in 1933, so how realistic is it for a double header to be running on that line before 1933 headed by a first series Saint, with a modified safety valve, followed by a Castle?
Oh yes, that's another one in the same series; it's on the back of my box. There are two others but they don't have boats in so are clearly of no interest whatsoever.
I'm going to start doing it now :-)
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I stand in front of the tiller on my cruiser, put the tiller in the middle of my back, hands in my pocket or drinking tea and steer with my back, of course this is only ok if heading straight or minor bends.
Waiting now for comments how bad this is....
Or turning the page of the map, or texting, or making a note in the log...
I'm lucky in that my boat will keep itself on course without being steered at all where the conditions are right, which is more impressive still. I even managed to walk round the gunnel to collect a cup of tea on my last trip, when the teamaker didn't fancy the gunnel walk. And of course that is probably more risky than 99.9% of the time spent standing in the arc of the tiller... But better than them falling in or me not getting my tea. I was going quite slowly :-)
Not bad at all, I'm sure lots of us have done that, and boy, don't it look cool?
Until the tiller slips from your back and the boat veers into the bank before you can retrieve the errant stick.
I don't think I would steer with my back when going that fast!
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Tony, I meant the hull sides, although suggestions for the shiny stuff would also be welcome. I have some good old fashioned liquid gloss that is as tough as old boots, but it takes days to dry, and attracts every feather and bit of fluff for miles.
That would be blacking surely?
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What about disposable nappies, wont they soak it up and be contained without buying stockings (can you still get them)
I guess tights would do...
But be careful what sort of cat litter - I think some will just turn into mud and not go up a vacuum.
You can (or could) get stuff that looks like cat litter especially for absorbing oil and other spillages and then sweeping up. I have no idea what its proper name is, PB used to call it 'chicken feed' which is what I guess it was known as in the motor trade.
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Oooh, that's a lovely idea!
Did they have a specific livery?
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I've still got the strainers on the outside. Just off to look for some photos...
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This thread has demonstrated that different positions suit different people and of course individuals must make their own risk assessments and weigh up comfort against safety (where the design of the boat doesn't allow both to be achieved simultaneously).
However, hopefully the message will have come through loud and clear to the OP that there *is* a risk in standing within the arc of the tiller - even if only one of the posters in the thread has experienced the tiller swinging hard while going forwards - we can argue about how big a risk it is, but it having happened just once might be enough for some people to wish to avoid it. And that was what the OP asked - had it ever happened. Thousands of people saying it has never happened to them don't prove that it couldn't happen - perhaps to them, perhaps tomorrow - but one person saying it did proves that it can happen.
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Yes, your method of standing on the step with the tiller in the small of your back is fine since you, like me, are facing directly forwards. Those who sit on either side are the one's who will be twisting their neck/back. Part of my reason for where I stand is because if the OH wants to join me at the back on our Trad Stern, if I'm standing on the step there is nowhere for her to go, if I'm standing on the counter she can stand on the step.
On the gunnel, on the towpath side, holding the handrail.
People can stand where they want to steer, it is entirely their choice, but I for one, will continue to reserve that rueful look for steerers out on the counter, boats fitted with tractor seats or rails, and boats that look like the hanging gardens of Babylon.
George ex nb Alton retired
And dangly fenders.
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Oh wow, who'd have thought it would lead to all this fabulous info. I have of course been up and down that line many many times - I am just very geographically unaware. I'm quite pleased that the picture turns out to be pretty accurate. One little thing still bothers me - how are the running blocks fixed? I've never paid much attention but I thought they went under the top strings - but in the picture they're not lined up with them.
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Some days I steer for ten hours or more but apart from a satisfying overall tiredness, I don't get any particular aches or pains. I don't understand the idea that standing on the step means having to twist... Maybe the boat makes a difference?
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Not helped by the very high tillers some modern boats have to allow them to be higher than the high cabin. I do see some boaters looking very awkward with their steering arm twisted up behind their back.
I guess the cabin sides need to be higher because the hull is less deep on a modern boat. Another argument in favour of an old one! I am not tall (5'3") but the tiller sits nicely in the small of my back (meaning I can steer with no hands on not very bendy bits). When I get my new step (which will be soon :-) I am going to see if it's possible to make it a little higher but more for visibility than comfort. I am also going to have it projecting deeper into the cabin so I can stand further forward without my toes hanging over the edge.
Unreserved Apology To GoodGurl
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Everybody is expending far too much time and energy posting on these navel gazing threads and there's (almost) nothing new and interesting being posted anywhere else!