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Spotted!Surely it is the Historic Narrow Boat Club, and there are other options available when it comes to getting advice and questions of a 'historical' nature - such as this Forum where there are quite a few knowledgeable members
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All good practice. Bugs love water that is "stagnant" (not regularly used) and at a temp between 20 and 45 degrees C. If you leave your boat for any length of time give your water system a good flush through. Cleaning the shower head in a bleach solution is important . Shower heads are known to breed Legionella and particularly as they are not used regularly. In health care we clean the shower heads monthly.
Fair point, it's really more about cleaning the pipe work etc than the tank itself isn't it. I'd overlooked that because I've just got a big tank with a tap at the bottom!
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That's a bit over sentimental. Bristol did not spend very long paired with Argo. I remember Bristol well when she was a converted ex Black Prince hire boat owned by Geoffrey Rogerson, and and moored for years on the K&A between Bradford on Avon and Bath.
''Twas only a passing comment, I wasn't particularly upset about it. More so about the loss of a butty. Saw it being done but didn't know it was Argo.
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Is it significant? In the context of all the other pollutants, especially agricultural run off, detergents, and masses of chlorinated tap water? In the very dilute concentrations we're talking about?
Although returning to the OP, I would still suggest that provided you've had a reasonable throughput of tap water, and no external contamination, the tank shouldn't need routine sterilising.
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I thought I'd locked myself in the facilities block at Brentford. Two latches, I just couldn't get the combination right. Thought the boats were going to have to go without me!
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You not been through Bray yet then?
(Yes, most of them are indeed)
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I'd have thought (pace Athy, I can't find the original post to quote) there was more chance of selling a butty separately. People have a motor for a while and then go really mad and decide that a butty might be a good addition to it. As long as it stays a butty, there's always the possibility of reuniting it with a suitable motor (not necessarily the same one) at some point.
Off topic further (but related to the post directly above), someone told me at the weekend that Argo has been cut in half - is that true? Now if I had bought Bristol, I'd have been responsible for splitting them up...
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Oh and tea is very important, pah to this modern coffee stuff
Nasty American habit, as my father used to say. He felt the same about ice in Scotch.
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This is what Milton is from their web site
"Milton Fluid is made of an aqueous solution of sodium hypochlorite and 16.5% sodium chloride. The Milton Fluid that is available to buy is a strength of 2% sodium hypochlorite"
And my Wilko thin bleach claims to be <5%
You probably wouldn't want to add the salt.
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Yes, yes, yes, YES, to nearly all of that.As usual you are wrong...
Water in a kettle begins to give off steamy vapour at about 80 degrees C. This is the point ill-informed people pour it over the teabag, and the thermal mass of the heavy china cup further reduces the water temperature. The colour leaches out of the teabag and makes it look like tea but there is very little taste. Nor is the resulting drink dangerously hot as tea should be!
No-one has yet described the change that happens when the kettle water actually boils. The steamy vapour production
ChrisGeo describes changes from 'whispy' into uncontrolled billowing and the room would rapidly fill with dense steam if the kettle is not turned off. The boiling point os OBVIOUS if you wait long enough for it.And as Peter Reed implies, proper tea can only be made using loose tea and a teapot.
Karl Marx had something to say on the subject too, IIRC. "Proper tea is theft", in his opinion, IIRC. An obvious loon if I may say.
Two caveats.
A Yorkshire teabag (a proper one, not a piddling little 'one-cup' one), properly brewed in a mug, is often better than some loose tea, especially when said 'loose tea' is actually a collection of roughly chopped twigs crammed into an in-pot strainer as in chi chi coffee shops who know bugger all about making tea but like to pretend they do.
It was actually Proudhon, the anarchist, who said that all proper tea was theft. Marx would probably have advocated common ownership of proper tea, or at least of the means of production, i.e. the kettle.
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Milton is (or at least it was last time I used it) sodium hypochlorite solution, the same stuff as thin bleach but more dilute and a great deal more expensive for the extra water! So cheap thin bleach (not the thick stuff which is a different chemical) would be fine, just read a Milton bottle to work out the equivalent dilution.
Having said that, if there's no actual problem, just keeping it filled with fresh chlorinated tap water should stop bugs breeding.
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Well, I think she was the spokesperson for both of them!Ah. Twas a lady
Tin hat on
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I suspect that would have confused them even more :-)It isn't steam that is seen coming out of the kettle when it boils, it is water vapor, Steam is invisible and is the 1/2'' or so of nothing between the spout and the water vapor. Very very hot nothing.
And she wasn't that much younger than me!
"How do you know when the kettle is boiling?"
Was this someone having a giggle while becoming impatient about the delay in making tea?
Sounds exactly like the kind of thing one of my old boater friends would say as a way to get the tea in the cup quicker.
No, they were making the tea. I was steering. Getting it to me was a whole nother adventure. I get quite annoyed (again) when academics are stereotyped as being hopelessly impractical, but I have to admit that the reputation is sometimes deserved!
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I was seriously asked this by a guest on the boat at the weekend. And it got me thinking. One of the things that mildly irritates me - so mildly I hardly notice - is people who stand watching a boiling (electric) kettle until it turns itself off, which can be up to half a minute after it actually boils. The kettle on the boat is an Agalux, so no whistle or anything. Can it really be that a whole generation of people who have grown up with automatic electric kettles really don't know how to tell when it's boiling?
(The answer I gave was 'when steam comes puffing out of the spout')
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No doubt, but when you're descending these locks and the paddle is opened, it's not scary and it doesn't take full power to avoid being slammed into the lower gate, so what's different here?
MP.
Well, I can only cite my experience in Colwich lock, when a top paddle was left slightly open - it wasn't really noticeable - and that somehow created a sufficient flow with both bottom paddles open to draw the boat back, and there was nothing I could do to stop it. The upshop of that experience was the new General Regulation that when I scream you drop the paddles first and argue later.
That may or may not be relevant to this case , but certainly counterintuitive things can happen when you have paddles open at both ends.
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It isn't in our case at least touching the boat. However I did say some people find boats in marinas too close, so they aren't going to want boats even closer i.e. touching.
It's a bit different doing it for one or two days, to get a mooring in a place you want to be, than it is day in day out in a marina. Lots of people might consider it worth it even if they wouldn't like it as a matter of course. I've always found it a great way to get to know new people.
Oooh, that was my 5,000th post!
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Misterton's owner is a member of CWDF too, his pseudo is : flatplane8
Peter.
Oh yes, I'd forgotten that. Probably how I first came across them actually.
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So you have Ian's number because he's been your customer and you're handing it out to anyone who asks?
Just checking I've got the facts here
No, he's going to give Helen's number to Ian.
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It's all about where the line is to be drawn -- we all know that it has to be somewhere.
Something about equine thirst and forced relocation comes to mind ...
Yes quite. For me the line is between education and compulsion.
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Of course when hanging proper framed pictures on the side walls of a boat, they have to be supported at the bottom too, because of the tumblehome. (Is that the right word?)
Hook to take the weight, blu-tak to keep it in place.
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Absolutely yes. Nyima, read, absorb and learn - oh, and have spare underwear handy.
It is the most Greenified post ever, which is how I accidentally re-stumbled over it the other day when I was so desperate to procrastinate that I read right down to the bottom of the page.
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The current owners of Misterton have a long standing blog which I used to follow ages ago when they were first renovating it and on searching for it I was pleased to see that it was still going, at least as of last February. The blog is here with a brief history of the barge here.
Slightly off topic I know but hopefully potentially interesting.
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How about a sign warning us not to fall in? Another obvious danger CRT are failing to warn us about.
*Obvious* being the operative word here. Potential danger of CO may be obvious to those of us reading this thread but clearly there is more education to be done out there.
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Well that's a pretty obvious thing to say. Any infectious disease spreads when the "conditions are right" and the conditions are very right in most steel boat's bilges for rust to spread. I say again to the OP it needs investigating carefully and treating properly. I'm out of here now
Yeah but the rust spreads because of the conditions, not because it's infectious. It would still rust in rust-inducing conditions even if there wasn't any rust there already.
Could you get Waxoyl under the tank? That's what we put between our old baseplate and the overplating.
Ah, or is the bottom of the tank also the baseplate?
Please tell me what you think of this boat?
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Even that, not necessarily. So much depends on the initial quality and how it's been looked after. Certainly don't rule out older boats from your search.