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As anybody out there had any dealings with PRO Cast chandlery? If so what were your experiances and did you have any delays receiving your items?
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Have you looked at kerosene Rayburns? Cheep to run and you can run your rads of it, heat all your water and cook a fine traditional meal on it. I'm considering putting one in my own new sailaway next spring. But like yourself I've been trying to find the ideal solution and seeking advice from the more experienced boaters on here.does anyone have a lpg combi boiler ? i am thinking this could be the way to go.
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Hello, does any one know if it is possible to convert a Rangemaster Classic from natural gas to LPG? I am planning on installing one on my self fit out if they can be converted, I've had a couple of conflicting reports so far, so any help would be as always hugely appreciated (-;
Kind Regards
Allan
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Hi Matthew, thanks for the reply. We are planning the boat as a live aboard and although we love the look of them we also want to use it as an everyday means of cooking. Is yours multi fuel? Also do you have any problems with the flue? Someone told me the flue would be to short for a boat!
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Well have considered and looked at the Rayburns as well as the aga's. I was considering getting a kerosine fuelled aga rather than a solid fuel and having an oil tank fitted to fuel it. I realise my shell builder will have to put her in before the roof goes on! Did you have any problems with the flue and was it a drain on your batteries? Also do you know what model Rayburn you had?
Thanks Tim, we were looking at a two oven model round about 900x670 , there are quite a few old models on eBay at very reasonable prices, but as you say if you can't get the parts then not much good to us.
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Hello I am under great pressure from my other half, to install an aga in our new boat that we are purchasing next spring as a sailaway. Does anyone have any ideas as to which model (second hand) would be most suitable for a narrow boat? Can our dream become a reality or are we just two young romantics?
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Can't thank you enough for your help and prompt response, you've been a great help.
Kind regards
Allan
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Hi Allan,
I don't think there's actually any such person as Mike Christian. I think the name is made up of various people's middle names. Mike Christian is the name that Tyler Wilson give to their (comparatively) budget shells. I've got one and I'm very happy with it.
I'd seen Tyler Wilson shells and liked them, but I didn't want to pay extra for what I saw as some of the unnecessary fiddly bits so they recommended the Mike Christian shell. You might be prepared to pay the extra for a higher-spec shell, so have a look at the whole range just in case. I know that Chris (LMBS) does fit out Tyler Wilson shells from time to time, and he seemed a very helpful chap. I don't know anything about Lancaster Boat Builders - just I was very happy with LMBS.
Hi thanks for the reply, really was helpful and it begins to make sense now, I really like the Tim Tyler shells but they are probably out of my price range especially with a josher bow. The one I have seen in primer at Lymm Marine looks really well made and looks a good looking shell. I have yet to speak to Chris, but have been told he is a helpful guy. Did you actually buy yours from LMBS? Also were you able to go down and view it in build or was it an of the shelf shell, already completed?
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Contact these chaps.
Artists in steel.
I've just done that and emailed them the spec of what I'm looking for, they have come highly recommended before, so either have lots of friends or are as good as everyone says, many thanks.
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Hi has anyone had any dealings with or know anything about Mike Christian, the shell builder from Sheffield? If so is he part of the Tyler Wilson boat building team, or is he now an independent shell builder? I have had a look at LMBS web site and they offer a rather nice looking shell by Mike Christian of Tyler Wilson. Also the newly formed Lancaster Boat Builders state that their Mike Christian shell is a Tyler Wilson, is this really the case? If so then please let me know and my search for a shell builder may finally have reached an end...
Regards
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Almost all established shell builders will produce a decent shell with no horrible mistakes, but
1 You get what you pay for
2 Most builders will be best if producing a shell in their own style.
Have a look at a number of boats, decide what you want, and go to a builder that makes that style of boat.
If you want to build a basic boat then a budget shell will be fine.
If you plan on an upmarket fit-out then it would be foolish to do this on a budget shell.
Most builders don't have direct canal access so the shell will need to be craned onto a truck and driven to the water. Therefore you don't have to limit yourself to a local builder as the extra cost of a longer delivery will not be much.
and please don't take this wrong...
If you are going to fit out a boat and don't yet know what shell/shell builder you want then think about getting a second hand boat (lots of bargains right now) and spending a year or two on the cut to learn more about what sort of boat you would really like.
............Dave
Hi Dave, thanks some good advice there, the fit out I am planning will be of the higher end and I dont intend on skimping on too much. My eldest brother is a semi-retired cabinet maker as is my future father in law, so I'm expecting a lot on the fit out, another of my brothers is a plumber and a good all rounder. I work in a tech college as a tutor and previously worked as a self employed builder, as most builders dream of building a house I just want and always have done dreamt of building my boat and living on the cut with like minded people.
I understand what you say about buying second hand but I know exactly what I want, a 57' go any where traditional narrowboat with a reverse layout, bespoke ivory cottage style kitchen, Eberspacher heating, squiral stove, four port holes, five 32" windows and a sky light in the bedroom centred above my full length bed!! She's even got a name Mallory...
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Pay £1000 deposit, and the rest on collection.
I order their "off the shelf" model, which keeps the process quick and simple. I'm sure it's a case of you get what you pay for, but I'm impressed so far. The boats are made by Cheshire Boat builders....you can speak to Chris at LMBS. Some people on this forum have gotten boats from them, which is why I went with them too. You can see a few boats in their yard before you order your own...
I have actually had a look at Lymm Marina , but they buy their shells in from various builders. I was and still am interested in one of their Mike Christian shells, but I would prefer to see my shell being built and build up a photographic history from day one really.
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Hi, I live in the North West and I'm planning on purchasing a 57'- 60' Trad/Semi trad sailaway next March. Could anyone recommend a good shell builder? I've been in contact with many and had some very good responses. I realise the importance of selecting the right builder, therefore I would value someones recommendations with regard to what will be for me a huge financial commitment. As anyone had any dealings with Dave Clark from Nottingham, who is on my short list along with Aintree Boats.
Kind Regards
Allan
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No they won't go through standard doors. Ours came in through an especially wide side hatch on a fork lift. I wouldn't recommend one after having a rayburn and later a small stove. I much prefer the small stove.
Hi I have been planning on fitting a Rayburn in what will eventually be my new boat! I've desperately been trying to find someone who has previous experience of living with one, how come you wouldn't recommend one?
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Many thanks to everyone who has contributed so far, there's certainly been a mixed response and plenty of food for thought.
Great in winter, once you have overcome the effects on trim and ballast (350 Kg + hearth is a significant concentrated weight in a narrow boat). Maybe a bit hot in summer so you may need some back-up cooking method.
Talk to the boat builder about how you are going to get it in- it might be easiest before the roof goes on and will surely be difficult if it has to go through front doors.
The 400K seems to only come with vaporising kero burners. Kero is not the same as red diesel so you will need to have a tank for it and work out how you get a new supply of kero. Most suppliers have a minimum drop (usually about 500l)and some will not deliver direct to boats. Vaporising burners need 240v so factor the electrical load [plus the lossses from the inverter into your power audit.
Find out about flues. Boat flues tend to be shorter than most makers and Rayburn recommend at least 3m of 125mm flue. That is too long for many canals. 125mm flue is also larger than the commonly available flue collars, so you will need a special. Powered flues are available, but will require more power.....
Mike the Boilerman may be along in a minute.
Some great info there and it really is appreciated many thanks.
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I used to own one in a house, it was solid fuel and brilliant so that would be my idea, not oil. They do kick out a lot of heat and are good ballast. Be great on a widebeam but there are a few fitted on narrow beam. What are you fitting out ?
Tim
I used to own one in a house, it was solid fuel and brilliant so that would be my idea, not oil. They do kick out a lot of heat and are good ballast. Be great on a widebeam but there are a few fitted on narrow beam. What are you fitting out ?
Tim
Hi Tim, I'll be fitting out a reverse layout 57' - 60' Trad and will be running a total of 4 rads including a towel rail.
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Hello, I am fairly new to boating with the exception of some truly wonderful boating holidays. I am now in the middle stages of planning a 60’ live aboard sail away, which I hope to place an order for by next March. This will be my first boat purchase and possibly my last, so I would obviously like to try and get it right first time!! Rather than a mixture of gas and diesel for cooking and heating inc water, I am considering installing an oil fired Rayburn 400k or an equivalent, which will do the lot as well as look great for our cottage style boat theme. I have yet to meet anyone who has any real life experiences of cooking and running a Rayburn (Inc my girlfriend) hence have no idea how much they are to run in comparison to gas for cooking and diesel for heating and if they are practical for a life afloat. So If anyone can be of help, then any info will be greatly appreciated.
Many Thanks...
Alde heating with a surecal calorifier
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Hello everyone,
Is there any good hearted soles out there, who could help me out at this festive time of year! I'm in the middle of fitting out my 57' narrowboat, having just finished the lining out I'm just about to start the plumbing! I'm installing an Alde 3010 boiler, along with a surecal twin coil calorifier, fitted over the swim, along with 3 radiators. If anyone could provide me with a suitable fool proof plumbing diagram or the details of a plumber who works in the South Manchester area with marine experiance, then it would be greatly appreciated.
Kindest regards
Allan