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    Religion and politics poll

    in Current Affairs

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    Thing is, when you see it day in, day out from not just one nasty, bigot who is derogatory of vulnerable groups but from

    several, eventually, you don't bother logging in at all. It's not worth wading past the nastiness to find something nice, And when you do find something nice you've done so by avoiding all the problem sections of the forum and the threads started by problem members of the forum, you find one of the usual suspects has landed a racist, dismissive or inflammatory statement there too, where it has no place!

     

    If you're not a Daily Mail reader, you're not going to pick up a copy of the Daily Mal on the off-chance it's got a fair and reasoned article in it somewhere. Chances are you'll feel miserable or angry before you've managed to get past the cover page. So you just avoid the whole paper.

     

    This is why good forum members are hardly coming here any more. And some have already walked away. That means we're losing an excellent resource of waterways knowledge and experience, traded in for political zealots and racists.

     

    That ain't what a boating forum is for. And that is why people who joined CWDF thinking it was a boating forum have left or have drifted off and are talking about it elsewhere. This isn't supposition: people are actually discussing this outside of the forum and mourning the loss of a once great resource.

     

    Well said that woman.

    Forum meltdown night

    in Current Affairs

    Posted

    I think calling the leaving by some people 'flounces' is a demeaning. There have been some very well written and considered reasons as to why members are leaving the forum/stopping funding/laying down duties. A flounce implies that they are leaving for trivial reasons which is obviously not true.

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    Religion and politics poll

    in Current Affairs

    Posted · Edited by Little Else

    Yes I agree that arguing "cleverly" and courteously in the face of constant adversity and stupidity can get tiresome. However you post drifts into speculation and supposition, and it's speculation/supposition that I don't recognise.

    I am on the forum a lot and yes I've noticed a few unpleasant posts from the two folk on trial here, but in the main they are just mildly annoyingly tenacious and intransigent, and I tend to skip them. I can't help feeling that if they didn't get much reaction they'd stop posting so much, because it is pretty difficult to have an argument with yourself! So my technique would be to challenge and explain my counter-view when they seem out of order, but if they arent open to rational debate then give up, you aren't going to change their minds and so why prolong the agony. You have made your point but you can't expect to win every time.

    The world is full of racists, sexists and other hating persons. You aren't going to change that over night how ever much you want to. And banning such folk from this forum certainly isn't going to achieve it either. Flag it up by all means, but don't be despondent if some of the -ists continue to exist because it is inevitable.

    Oh and my punch line is that the -ists are often like that due to poor communication - they don't see that what they think or do is wrong because it hasn't been explained properly so they can't see it from the side of whom they are -isming. So in what way is excommunication going to help that?

    It's not going to change overnight but unless people flag up what is acceptable and what is not,it will never change.

    Religion and politics poll

    in Current Affairs

    Posted

    Banishing people in order to silence them because you don't like their opinions..., hmm, where has that happened before? Was it a good thing? I think not.[/

     

    I hardly think banning them from this forum will silence them. I think it's good manners to know what is acceptable and what isn't in the circumstances.

    Religion and politics poll

    in Current Affairs

    Posted

    I think the crux of this is, it is certain participants that are the issue, rather than specific topics discussed. Most of us can have a debate from differing angles without being douchecanoes about it.

    Most of us can accept that racism, sexism etc., just aren't ok, and if you think they are, you should probably keep it to yourself in mixed company.

    The bulk of us can hold a civilized discussion or debate with those caveats in mind, on virtually any topic.

     

    Those that can't? It's not the topics, or forum sections that are the issue-it's them.

     

    If politics, religion et.al. topics were banned,it might help a little, but those specific people's forum activities wouldn't really change. Every third post from some quarters would be along the lines of "but I suppose saying that makes me wacist" or "those who are too blinded by their own leftie evangalism to face the truth will disagree-" in topics that bear no relation to any such thing, for the sake of it-for the bait, for the bluster, or because they're just that touched in the head.

    Them who are apt to post like that will still find the oppurtunity to do so, be that in Current Affairs or Vintage Engines

     

    Ergo, remove the people that are the problem, not the platform that they're standing on.

    If you were as good looking as a certain monkey, I'd buy you a pint too.

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