Posts posted by Dave_P
1 hour ago, Jon57 said:
Always a first time. Let’s have a raffle to see if it sells.👍
1 minute ago, Mike Hurley said:
Boats for sale section on here might be a good start.
When I'm ready to sell, I'll certainly put it on here.
21 hours ago, Tonka said:
Have you thought about selling raffle tickets. Winner gets boat
Is this for me?
I can see the potential but what if I fail to sell enough tickets?
Those house raffle things work because the companies doing it have a big reach and advertising budget.
It could be a money-spinner though I suppose? £2 a ticket maybe?
I'd like about £45k for my boat so if I sold 23,000 or more tickets, then I'm winning. Are there 23,000 people who would buy a raffle ticket for a boat?21 hours ago, koukouvagia said:
I was aware that fender-kickers might be a problem when we put our ex-working boat up for sale. I put a brief advert on ApolloDuck and passed the news by word of mouth. When the phone enquiries started I asked the person if they'd seen the very detailed website I'd set up describing the boat, its history and all the work that had been done over the years.
I suggested that they study the website and come back to me with any questions.
That approach whittled the field down to three serious enquirers (plus someone who wanted the mooring, not the boat!).
I quite like this approach.
5 hours ago, blackrose said:
If you have time to sell it yourself the transferable mooring should command a higher price and might swing it for some first time buyers.
Surely you weren't thinking that leaving it unoccupied for weeks on end on the towpath in/around London is a serious option? Aren't you concerned about it being broken into & vandalised? The only sensible way to sell it near London would be to arrange to put it on brokerage. I still think selling it on your mooring would get you a better price whether that's selling it yourself or through a broker.
What gave you the idea that the mooring is transferable?
16 hours ago, peterboat said:
I agree with you, if the paint isnt blistered with rust I would use Owlatrol gel coat restorer it brings paint up very well with less effort than polishing
The paint is FAR worse than just blistered with rust. Also as said earlier, it's part repainted, but it's also been touched up over the years with various non-matching paints.
If it was just blistered with rust, I'd just polish it, definitely.14 hours ago, alan_fincher said:
It sounds like Dave's boat may well be bad enough for it to have no good outcome.
I think so too. Like said earlier, it's a sound boat. Reliable, well equipped, in good nick inside etc. But the first impression of it is bad. I have an experienced amateur painter who is pencilled in to paint it for me in April (I've seen their work and it's a lot better than mine). I've got to get the angle grinder out first though to do the prep.
1 hour ago, M_JG said:
Rugby Boats vid shows it after Matty's handywork. You can see the touched in bow flashes, the painted well deck and the hull repaint which I'd forgotten about. I think the scratch through the signwriting was on the other side.??
Ok well Beau's paintwork is nothing like that. It's also partially repainted last year so really does need doing. It's a good honest boat but the first impression of it isn't great right now.
1 hour ago, Naughty Cal said:
Personally I wouldn't bother getting it repainted. Just polish what you already have. The chances of the colour scheme you choosing being exactly what the new owners want is slim to none.
You haven't seen the state of the current paintwork...
25 minutes ago, alan_fincher said:
From memory of quite a few years ago, I think brokers were charging 5% to 6%. However I think there is VAT to pay on top of their quoted fee.
I've no idea how things have changed since, though, but when VAT is added it will be a largish slice of the selling price.
But then you have to consider how much better the selling price might be via a broker, rather than if you sell direct.
If you don't use a broker don't underestimate the time you would spend letting "fender kickers" look at the boat, nor what the costs to you might be driving to it repeatedly. A definite argument for not dumping it in London, I think.
Do they charge VAT on the selling price or the brokerage fee?1 hour ago, Mad Harold said:
There will also be others who make an appointment to view your boat and don' t turn up, and if you are some distance from your boat, will waste a day.
I'm not too bothered about that. I'm either on the boat or 10 minutes away.
2 minutes ago, Laurie Booth said:
Paint the inside white, take it down to London, write a blog saying it cost nothing to live on the boat,
I like it! Perhaps I should also befriend an influencer and get them to post something about it?6 minutes ago, M_JG said:
we didn't want to use it further in case we started to doubt our decision was the correct one.
I hear this!!7 minutes ago, MtB said:
Consider your own priorities. Do you want top money for it? or minimum hassle?
My view is give it to. broker. They will get full market price with little or no time input required from you, less £4-4k commission.
If you have time in spades on your hands and want top money, then the broker offers little value as you can do all the legwork yourself.
A boat for sale with a mooring might also seem more attractive to some buyers.
I think my priority is to maximise the price. But maybe the reach of a good broker means I can get more for it which would offset the broker's fee? Is £4k standard? I think I'm in the wrong job!
4 minutes ago, M_JG said:
Selling through a broker worked out very well for us. (Rugby boats) in 2015.
We had the boat moved down there specially. They dealt with all the marketing and the tyre kickers (and with the numpty who made and subsequently withdrew his offer).
Of course we paid (and I honestly can't recall the percentage now) but felt it was worth it.
That said boats were taking longer to sell back then and it's a different climate now. Why not try option 2 first and then move to option 1 if it doesn't shift.
What about option 3? Do you think that would attract more buyers, especially first time buyers?
Just now, ditchcrawler said:
Just mention it on Facebook and there will be a queue by the door.
That depends on the asking price surely?
I'm planning to put my boat up for sale in the spring. I'm not quite ready to sell yet as there's some jobs I want to get done first and I'm having her painted in April to make her look her best.
I've never sold a boat before so I'm wondering the best way to go about it. My options:
1. Take the boat to a brokerage and let them sell it. Pros: It might sell quickly and I don't have to do much. Cons: They take a cut, but I'm not sure how much? £1000? £5000? Anyone know?
2. Sell it myself from my current mooring (they don't have any rule against this). Pros: I get all the sale price. Cons: I do all the selling work.
3. Sell it myself from my current mooring but offer to take it to wherever the buyer is. Pros: I might get a higher price. I get to enjoy one last cruise. Cons: Not sure?
4. Take her down to that London and put her up for sale there. Pros: Might get a higher price. Cons: Time taken to get there, then I have to keep going down and moving on, unless I sell very quickly.
What are the wise thoughts of the forum on all this?
Of course, if anyone reading this is looking for a tried and tested liveaboard, let me know...
I contacted Daniel about 4 years ago with a request to be removed as a mod. This has yet to happen for reasons unknown to me.
IMO there are only 3 active mods on the forum, and that's not enough for a balanced approach to moderating to occur.
The other 5 moderators are either sporadically logging on (I'm one of those), or never logging on.
Daniel's forum activity is somewhat sporadic too.
36 minutes ago, Tim Lewis said:
Restored or not the canal you want to connect to will have an owner who you will need to talk to, this will not necessarily be the restoration society. There is also a good chance that you will need planning permission.
I can guarantee that it will need planning permission. The OP can DM me if he wants more advice on this. Alternatively theirs a very knowledgable planner at his mooring (Nicki/Odana).
14 hours ago, Captain Pegg said:
How far has it got? Passed it at Braunston top lock at about midday last Friday.
You made some quick progress then, considering where I saw Vulpes at the weekend!
1 hour ago, ditchcrawler said:
Almost exactly the same happened when I went out, the other boat was in first, tied in and decided to check his weed hatch, I came in and gates shut paddles opened. I saw what was happening and sat on the horn to attract the lockies attention. The rope was tight but not snapped
Maybe they'll learn when they sink a boat?
18 hours ago, jpcdriver said:
My take on the Minimalist Bingley video was after the event what they were most concerned about the way the local lockies behaved, being very dismissive about the level of danger involved.
I can completely believe that CRT lockies can overlook basic safety.
Here's my experience from last year:
Locking out onto the Thames at Brentford. 2 lockies had arrived to see boats through.
I took Beau into the lock first. There was another fairly wide boat coming in with me so I loosely tied my stern line on to a bollard to give them plenty of space to aim at. I knew that once on the tideway I'd have no opportunity to pee so took the chance to nip inside for a pee. I was quick, but by the time I'd got back onto the deck, the other boat was in, the gates were shut and the lock was emptying, quickly. No communication to see if skippers or crew were ready, or even visible. Nothing. My boat was already hanging up at the stern as I came out of the hatch. I screamed at the lockies to stop emptying the lock and and they just stood there staring at me like gormless idiots. By the time they realised what was happening the rope had snapped and the boat crashed down into the lock. Luckily the only damage was to the rope. I got the impression that the 2 lockies had no idea about safety or anything. They just turned up in a van when a passage was booked, pressed a few buttons and then went on their way.
1 minute ago, MtB said:
My own limited experience of making videos for youtube is that is takes around an hour to edit about a minute of running time, and that's just a home-made video of me talking to my phone plus some stills inserted illustrating what I'm droning on about. And that's without any of the time spent planning the video or setting up/looking after the gear that the more professional vloggers use.
I reckon producing a half hour video to the standard of CTC once a week adds up to more or less a full time job.
Having previously worked for BBC TV I can confirm that editing can be pretty time consuming, but I suspect CTC has a decent set up and his vlogs are typically long-take talking head type things which don't take that long to edit.
CTC's videos are typically about 15 minutes long and I'd guess they take about 5-8 hours to edit each one. Add the filming time on and you're looking at one longish day's work a week. But then he has to interact with his fans, run his website, attend boat shows etc, so it will add up to a bit. It's still an attractive life option for those looking to escape the rat-race.
I don't think anyone has got super-rich from canal vlogging but a small number have probably made a modest income for a few years and it's a bit enviable (if you don't mind talking on screen) to earn your living pottering about on the canals, making a video once a week, no boss, no ties etc. It's no wonder lots of other boaters have tried their luck at the same thing.
I follow a few hiking/backpacking channels from around the world and again, it must be pretty sweet to earn a decent income from doing the thing you love. Equally, only the best ones will be making much money from it.
I do notice the Foxes have a website selling merch and a patreon page with the top membership at £38.50 a month. I wonder how many top members they have? The patreon offers a private 20 minute video chat with the Foxes (the mind boggles what might be going on there, but I don't think they have an Only Fans page yet!). This personalised experience does seem to draw people in very closely, which I think is what Dora was getting at when she started this thread.
1 hour ago, MtB said:
Oh I see, thanks!
I think I have about 250 subscribers. Surely that's enough for the cash to start rolling in!!
I have 7 subscribers, although why anyone would want to subscribe to my channel escapes me.
2 hours ago, The Happy Nomad said:
Indeed. The last time we passed was a long time ago now, it was a nice spot back then and the pub was OK too. Nice beer garden.
I do recall it being quite tight past the water park itself what with boats moored and pretty dense offside growth though.
The pub is now an Italian restaurant
22 minutes ago, IanD said:
Of course if you're going up the Delph locks, it would be a crime not to moor in the little arm just above the bottom lock and walk up to the Bull and Bladder... 😉
🙂 🙂 🙂
If I did that I'd have no chance of the tackling the rest of the flight. Better to moor in the little arm just below the top lock.
1 hour ago, Beo said:
Branston is an actual place not a spelling mistake. It has a water park and, even better, a Bird’s bakery.
And IMO, a nicer place to moor than Braunston. Better phone signal too.
“Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn’t do than by the ones you did do. So, throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.” - attributed to Mark Twain.
14 years is quite long enough to wait.
Changes to moorings in Birmingham being considered by CRT
in General Boating
I have to say this is really disappointing and short sighted. Not just because it makes a mockery of the current morring reduction trial period but because of the further impact on the towapth.
Back in 2016, the north side towpath was resurfaced from the city centre,, out towards Wolverhampton. At that time I was doing my post-grad thesis on 'towpath conflict' and how changes to the built environment could either increase or decrease it. I spoke at length with A*** M******* who was the project lead for Birmingham City Council and J*** H***** who was the project lead for CRT. As part of these meetings we discussed the towpath 'improvements' on the north side and I was told that the same would be done on the south side at some point. I expressed my concerns about this, my comments being along the lines of "now that one side is done, it has pushed many towpath users to the other, muddier side so they can get away from the cyclists. if you do the other side the dog walkers etc will have nowhere to go". Having 2 towpaths means that 2 different surfaces and approaches can be adopted and everyone can be catered for.
It was like talking to a brick wall. Both of them simply couldn't conceive of a reason why a towpath shouldn't be tarmacked if there's money to do it. I was met with blank stares from both of them when I tried to explain the problem. In 2016, the money came from the DfT via a thing called the Cycle City Ambition Grant. I presume another pot of grant money has now been awarded and again CRT and BCC can't think of anything to do with it but to tarmac more towpath. I was told in 2016 that the towpaths were chosen because they were "quick wins".
In case you were wondering, yes I found various postive correlations between 'improving' towpaths and various negative outcomes, including more accidents and injuries and towpath users being driven away. It's also worth mentioning that the works done on the towpaths are often in direct contravention of the Trust's own guidelines for towpath design, introduced in 2013 https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/media/original/6873.pdf?v=cafb81