Paul C
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Duct tape would probably suffice as temporary
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Looking more broadly, it does illustrate how the advice of "buy a secondhand boat and get some experience before spending £xxx,xxx on a new build yourself" is sage. A £30-40k narrowboat is likely to be in reasonable shape, gets you on the cut, and would probably resell for similar with not too much bother. And it would be an investment in skills to learn how it all works, how it fits together, why some things are done the way they are, etc, etc.
Look at it another way, a new boat is likely to take 2+ years from now to be truly "ready". Thats a long time in your adult lifehood to be waiting for something.
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8 hours ago, beerbeerbeerbeerbeer said:
depends if you’re willing to argue for it,I’d say short term mooring signs are unlawful,
and CRT can’t refuse you 14 days,
but I’m not going court over it or risk me license
Which law are they breaking by the existence of short term mooring signs?
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6 hours ago, Amaya said:
That is such a prickish answer when someone has something serious going on.
Guess it's okay if you want to look like someone who doesn't understand the issues...
No worries, you're free to express your opinion. I am glad others (and OP) actually got my dry sense of humour.
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Can you sell your boat and buy the other which is one digit out?
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Because earlier,
4 hours ago, peterboat said:I ask because I don't have one and didn't intend to renew my old one that expired in 2020
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The question wasn't for you
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Driving licence or voter ID card would be okay as proof of ID. You have one of those, right?
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Camera battery chargers.
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You can get a tool which cuts down a normal sized SIM to a nanoSIM size:
BUT you don't need to (and it probably wouldn't work anyway - not electrically, but because the old SIM isn't 4G capable). You can simply ask your network provider to send you a new, 3-in-1 SIM which you can snap off the excess to make it into a nanoSIM, and it will be 4G capable (because pretty much every network is now 4G capable).
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Here's an analogy, hopefully for the hard of understanding:
I go into a service station and want to buy a small carton (500ml) of milk. WHSmiths and M&S Food both sell milk, but WHSmiths only have 2 litre bottles. They are both able to sell milk, and neither is obligated to sell me 500ml. I can't make WHSmiths sell me 500ml of milk and if I ask if they can open a 2 litre bottle and decant some into my cornflakes at the 500ml price, they'll say no (but will happily sell 2 litres, at its price). M&S aren't obligated to sell me milk either, but they will sell a 500ml carton to me - because they have decided to offer 500ml cartons.
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44 minutes ago, Gybe Ho said:
Is the tank formed out of the mild steel hull? I understand this offers the best water capacity per ft of hull length at the expense of a once a decade interior internal tank de-rust and repaint.
Yes.
Regarding the whole thing, there is a danger of "overthinking" it, especially if you have no experience to relate to. I'd advise try a standard layout and a reverse layout boat for at least a week each, then you have something tangible to base a decision on rather than theory. We tried 5 boats (hiring) before deciding to buy our own.
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4 hours ago, jim mitchell said:
Pump out and fresh water - minimise pipe runs , maintain bouancy athwartship and minimise bow / stern squat shift for all stages of tanks from empty to full - not planning at present just musing thoughts on practicality of various layout / positions re weights and distribution thereof.
Huh - the fresh water isn't at the front? On a previous boat it had a high-ish front deck and a rectangular plastic tank underneath it - installed from the interior. It left an awkwardly shaped storage area at the bow which was useful for junk that never came out much. On the current boat, the bow is the water tank.
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29 minutes ago, peterboat said:
The Split part, the rules set by HMRC are fairly clear for electric boats
Its not that they can say "no, we think you should be paying xx% split", its that a boat yard - indeed ANY retailer - is not obligated to sell anything, to anyone. Its not a public service they have to offer. So long as they're not discriminating against protected characteristics (eg they are refusing to sell to disabled people) they can choose not to sell to a boater who wants 100% domestic. They could choose to only sell at 60/40.
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19 minutes ago, peterboat said:
Not sure about that, as an electric boat owner all my diesel is domestic, I had a row at Thorne and they did it all at domestic
Which bit aren't you sure about?
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Most fuel bought at services is done with a fuel card and bunker price is paid.
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There are trad sterns and there are trad sterns. The size of the hatch, the steepness of the steps and the deck area outside the boat are all critical variables. For an old working boat, these were minimised so as to maximise carrying capacity and typically one person steered (the other walking the horses). But its pretty miserable for a second person to spend their holiday standing on the steps on their tiptoes.
The best combination, money-no-object, would be a trad stern within a large 'convertible' hatch which slides forwards to make the boat into a semi-trad. The area which changes from indoors to outdoors accommodation would need to be designed carefully though, to do both roles.
Hence, why we see many semi-trad sterns. Its a bit wasteful of space, not that great in winter, but a good all-round compromise design and better than cruiser stern except on the hot sunny days when a cruiser stern is in with a chance. Engine access is worse though.
Also (I guess...) cruiser sterns are a bit safer for families/kids, what with that barrier right round the back. But then maybe that's worse than not having it, for safety? In case you lean too far and go inverted into the water near the prop.
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2 hours ago, IanD said:
Even with boats with bow doors and a well deck, I found I always got off at the stern with the centre line at lock landings, never at the bows. I don't have any front doors or well deck and it hasn't posed any problem in reality.
But you're basing that on experience - some people always moor at the lock landing. I don't think the OP has as much experience.
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14 minutes ago, David Mack said:
And while you have a side door on one side fairly close to the front, on the other side the nearest entrance is half way down the boat. That will be a real hassle when that side of the boat is nearest the bank/towpath.
They're not really side doors, they're emergency exits - but the same applies. It could mean the difference between escaping for your life onto the towpath, or escaping for your life into the canal/river.
14 minutes ago, David Mack said:If you are not going to have a front door I can't really see the point of having a front well deck. Better to incorporate that space into the cabin (tug-style under-deck bed perhaps) or reduce the overall boat length.
Not having front doors makes the whole area outside in front, pretty much unusable. We use ours all the time - not for sitting down and relaxing, but for mooring (and sometimes getting on/off at locks). It really speeds things up for locks if the steerer/driver can get off and help, and with front door access its not really necessary to moor up the boat on the lock landing - just throw the front line out when stepping off, and if the boat has drifted too far to get on, you can pull it back.
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Definitely go for a dump-thru pumpout (if you really are committed to pump out, not cassette) and use the space underneath the toilet, in the corner, and underneath the sink unit too. You could extend it into the saloon if you like but you're just consuming floor space there, so I'd rethink and look at extending under the double bed.
Think long and hard before committing to a layout/design where regular outside access to the front of the boat is lost. Have you been on canals? I am not sure from your other posts, can't remember.
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It depends where you moor, or indirectly if you travel and moor in many places, most of which you won't know the quality of the mobile network connection. While its fair to say a lot of places there's decent phone (and mifi) coverage, there's some places where its marginal. Where the phone doesn't work (properly, at a reasonable speed, inside the boat - you're not going to leave your expensive phone in a plant pot on the roof, right?) the mifi + external aerial is able to receive reasonable internet. And of course, there's some places where its terrible (a not-spot).
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13 minutes ago, ditchcrawler said:
I have a couple of times and it was "Interesting"
Twice?
7 minutes ago, IanD said:In a way, AirBnB is a bit like Amazon, a (debatedly immoral...) money-making machine for those with capital... 😞
With Amazon the customers get cheap goods ordered easily and delivered really fast, the company makes a fortune, and the workers get screwed.
With AirBnB the customers get cheap places to stay quickly and easily, the owners make a fortune, and the locals get screwed.
A triumph of consumer capitalism in both cases... 😉
How many times?
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How many narrowboats are built to completion in the EU, gain the relevant approval then are imported to the UK?
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When we bought our mifi it came with a sticker with the relevant details on it (SSID, admin username and password, IP address of gateway, etc) which we stuck onto the back of the unit. I guess you forgot to stick the sticker on?
Can you look at another device to find out the SSID? For the password........its going to be more of a challenge if you've lost it.
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How are they "questionable" though? Is it only because you don't know the underlying legislation which allows them to do so? In any case, CRT have stated they believe they have the powers to do it, but its been untested in court.
The relevant law (I've reworded slightly so it reads better - check out the original text here though: https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Eliz2/10-11/46/section/43) is:
"Canal & River Trust shall have power to ....... make the use of their services and facilities subject to such terms and conditions, as they think fit."
I think CRT are as unwilling as any boater (so far) to actually go to court and "test" them.