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  7. Spare outboard - too many choices

    in New to Boating?

    Posted

    So just to make things more complicated, those of you that suggested not giving up on the MD1 just yet may be on to something.

     

    A bit of 'percussive maintenance' managed to move this

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    to here

     

     

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    and a go with the wire brush cleaned this

     

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    up to this

     

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    I've got plenty of other things to work on first, but maybe getting the diesel engine working again could be a long term goal.

  12. Spare outboard - too many choices

    in New to Boating?

    Posted

    2 hours ago, Alan de Enfield said:

     

    WD40 is not an oil, let alone a penetrating oil, and will do nothing.

     

    The Name 'WD 40' comes from the fact it is a 'water dispersant' and is the 40th blend they came up with. It is designed to be sprayed into (say) electrical junction boxes that have had water ingress and effectively 'dries out' the box.

     

    Buy a can of proper penetrating oil and see if that works.

     

    I didn't know that.

     

    and with that level of technical knowledge you can see why renovating an entire engine might be a bit beyond me!

    • Greenie 1

  13. Spare outboard - too many choices

    in New to Boating?

    Posted

    I'm afraid nothing moves (despite liberal applications of WD40)

     

    I have got a hand crank handle, but even standing on it does nothing.

     

    The decompression lever (or any of the levers) won't budge.

     

    I'll give it all another spray and a try, but the reason I got the boat so cheap was because the engine was considered useless.

     

  14. Spare outboard - too many choices

    in New to Boating?

    Posted

    Thank you everyone for your replies.

     

    I was considering solar as an option. I've got a couple of small panels and control units from a previous project, but there's not enough sunlight at the moment to test everything fully. Another battery would be cheaper than an outboard, but as BilgePump says, there is not a lot of surface area, plus I just can't shake the idea of having a more traditional back up. I'll keep investigating this avenue though.

     

     Attached are pictures of the diesel engine, a Penta MD1. Knackered, in this context, means well beyond my skill to repair and un-economical to pay someone else to do it. I have no idea how much it would cost to get a boat yard to haul the engine out, get it up and running, and put it back in again, but I suspect it would be more than I paid for the boat. Same with having it removed and replaced. I wonder how much I would get for it as scrap?

     

    From a manoeuvrability POV, the electric motor has reverse, so as long as I didn't completely flatten the battery I could use the petrol engine for the long straights, then the electric for docking. 

     

    Going through my photo's I have discovered that the outboard bracket is a Seagull. Maybe a clue as to what engine was used in the past.

     

    Puffin3.jpg

    volvo1.jpg

    bracket.jpg

    • Greenie 2

  15. Spare outboard - too many choices

    in New to Boating?

    Posted

    At the end of last summer I bought a 19ft GRP to use as a day / weekend boat up and down the GUC. She's a Mirror Offshore like this. I got it cheap because the inboard engine is completely knackered.

     

    She is powered with a 85lb electric motor run off a 12v leisure battery. I have a second battery for the motor and a third for the LED lights.

     

    So far I have taken her on short jaunts of a couple of hours and around 8 miles tops. I have realised by not running the motor flat out I can travel at about 4 mph and not flatten the batteries, but I still haven't got a feel for how I will fare on longer journeys.

     

    Once the weather warms I'd like to go a bit further afield, on weekend trips, and sleep over night.

     

    My worry is that I'll run out of battery and be stuck in the middle of nowhere with my two kids on board. Initially I'll go north until the first battery gets low, then set off back the next day using the first battery, change over to the second battery when needed and still have the 'lights' battery as back up.

     

    However.......

     

    What if I'm sailing in to the wind, or have some other unexpected strains on power?

     

    So I am thinking of buying a petrol outboard as a back up, but which one?

     

    It will need to sit unused for long periods of time, but start first time when needed. It needs to be longshaft. It needs to be at least 2hp (as this is the equivalent of 85lb thrust).

     

    I can get a brand new 3.5hp 2 stroke for £220 from Amazon (there is also a secondhand one for £80, near here). 

    or

    a 4 stroke for £260 

    these are air cooled. Does that mean they are noisy? does the 2 / 4 stroke make a difference to that?

     

    or I can get a second hand Seagull for £120, are these more reliable? they seem to be designed as trolling engines so is that better for long journeys at canal speeds?

     

    or am I barking up the wrong tree altogether?

     

    Any advice would be most welcome

     

    cheers

    Jerry

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