Grace and Favour
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Thank you for all of your replies. I especially appreciate Site Crew for being straight with me as now I am clear.
Although our intentions are honest and innocuous, I fully understand the reason needed for caution. Feel free to cast aspersions on me, as my ex wife and ex mother in law did it all the time.
For added information, we are Americans writing from the United States. As such, you'll probably see many more daft questions that I post.
By the by, it is 5:30pm where I am, shouldn't you all be at pub quiz now???
I would be at the pub quiz - but most of them here are held during the quieter business nights (Monday thro' Wednesday) in an attempt to drum up business .
It's such a struggle to sup good beer and tax the grey matter - - - - but we manage thanks!
(And we'll happily answer (some of) the daft questions!
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prhenry68/Paul,
Welcome to the forum,
As you will have already worked out - there may be any number of reasons why somebody wishes to track down a boat - some of those reasons will be completely honest, some completely innocuous, and some possibly suspicious.
Without wishing to cast any aspersions upon your motives, our past experiences will make us cautious - for all the best reasons.
IF the owner of your New Dawn (whichever one it may be) sees your post - or another member is able to bring it to their attention, AND they wish to contact you, then I will be delighted to put them in touch with you.
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Would the new owners like the attention?there is a web site that will say if it has been licenced to date i think.which would tell you its alive and kicking.
If it's this one - - it's still alive and kicking:
New Dawn Built by J.D.Narrowboats - Length 13.716 metres ( 45 feet ) - Beam 2.08 metres ( 6 feet 10 inches ) - Draft 0.01 ( 0 feet ). Metal hull, power of 28 BHP. Registered with Canal & River Trust number 515692 as a Powered. Last registration recorded on Wednesday 22nd May 2013.
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Eh?
Agranam of Slog B
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So the discount doesn't apply to online stuff then, as I looked yesterday and today, and the prices are the same! No mention of 20% discount when I went to checkout.
Oh well as I'm working I couldn't of got to the store. Was thinking of buying an insulated external chimney.
James
I do hope you didn't buy one of their insulated external chimneys. In my experience a tailored one to fit snugly on yer bote is more efficient. And not much dearer.
And was better made too!
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Where's the sun?
Tim
It's just set
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I think it is reasonable for the OP to expect an Enforcement Officer to know the official policy on 'how far is enough'
I don't disagree with you, at all.
But the OP would be wise to get the information in writing....
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Doh.. I carnt load up the images
Put them on Photobucket, and then download them onto here from there!
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<<Snippity>>
Issuing a "CRT AWARE" sticker to display instead of a Mooring License and/or Boat License would stop the suspicion and resentment without giving anything away.
MtB
I wonder how long before CRT Aware stickers would be available on Ebay ?
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Although the odd thing here, (perhaps!) is that a CRT enforcement person has actually told him he needs to move 18 miles. They have, I suspect, no good reason for citing 18 miles, but provided OP does that, and can prove they are, then presumably they have got past the "satisfy the board" bit that Dave keeps coming up with, because that is what "the board" says they need to be doing?
Unfortunately, it is not the CRT Board that have mentioned a distance to the OP, but (only) an Enforcement Occifer, whose verbal instruction may, or may not, be sufficient to satisfy the CRT Board should the issue progress further.
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Anchor Man,
Thank you for your post, and the clarification that it brings to some elements of the situation in Nottingham.
It is always a great concern when businesses experience problems that are/partially shouldered by customers and suppliers, and we can, at this moment, only hope that this particular business closure is being handled in such a way that customers and suppliers alike are not left out of pocket, and with a minimum of inconvenience.
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Thanks for your time BluString,
In response to your questions / topics:
I've been keeping an eye on Whilton marina for a few months, I actually saw that 'Leap of faith' boat listed a while back, and loved the tug style bow. It was £17,900, dropped to £7,900 so I called instantly this afternoon but someone's already put a deposit on it. Apparently she needed overplating. Man, I just want a boat of my own so bad but I think the crux is I need to save a lot more and find something more sustainable to my lifestyle.
I've looked into boat finance before, so i could pick up a £30k boat for instance and pay it off, but usually mooring is essential as they won't let one CC with finance.
My main things in the boat is a nice kitchen. A good sized bed (I'm a tall lad) and an area to work that's seperate to my living area. I'm a designer / musician by trade, most likely need to hide some instruments under the bed etc.
Solar panels - these are one of the first things I looked into when I started my NB hunting crusade a few months back.
Once again, thanks for the help Blue String! I might need to keep saving so I don't end up with a hunk o' shite!
I have an impression that Whilton Marina are making a good business out of selling boats (some may be well over-priced) to folks wishing to take them down to London area.
There will be no harm in you looking at boat sales much further afield that may well not be 'priced with a view to selling it to London' , and thus avoid an unnecessary premium.
And you're right in trying to save more for a dearer boat I suspect. Although there will be bargains around at £15K - 'bargains' is a relative statement, and you're quite likely going to have to spend a decent(indecent) additional wedge in order to get it up to a reasonable standard/fir for what you wish to use it for.
I would also urge you to arrange a survey on whatever boat(s) you wish to purchase - (and bear in mind that a survey, including lifting out costs etc) will certainly cost you many £hundreds, maybe a £1k to do every time - and whilst it may be invaluable as part of your final purchase process, (it's an excellent bargaining tool) you need to be fairly keen on a boat before you make that decision.
And you can always ask the advice of members on here regarding you future potential purchases, of course.
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Head clearance is the difference between the top of your head and the ceiling and will vary from person to person.
And the angle between the thighs and the shins
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There must be a story in this somewhere----- maybe?
"I keep warm by putting horse droppings on my squirrel"
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Does the boat have a BSS by any chance?
Be well worth hunting down the examiner and checking why he passed it. Or reporting him the the BSS office.
MtB
That's assuming the BSS Examiner even saw the flue in that condition.....the stove etc may well have been fitted by the boat seller after the BSS.
Dianah - - could you please photograph the stove & flue and post it on here so we can give a more detailed reply (other than it is certainly not legal/acceptable/safe)
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Hmm, Wes,
Look, I don't want to burst any bubbles here, but I seriously suggest that before you commit any money to purchasing a boat, you do extra research.
Whilst non of us have seen the boat, just (from) the photographs it suggests that you've some very high power requirement equipment aboard, (oven, hob, 'fridge) - - the first two require 32amp 240v supply, (which very few moorings are supplied with - - hen's teeth springs to mind). You could, if really needed, run a fridge from both a 16amp shore supply, (more common on moorings) or from a large battery bank together an inverter (circa £2k) - - and some means of charging the batteries (as your boat engine probably isn't sufficiently powerful - it'll need a decent generator)
So - if you intend to continuously cruise London, you will not be able to use the hob or oven (or a microwave) unless you spend many many £100's on a fairly big generator, and it may not even be as simple as that!
Now - I think the crux may be "I plan on CC'ing the London network"
I seriously hope you have checked out all the requirements of that statement - and, if you are really clever, telephone your nearest CRT office and have them explain how they expect you to move, and maybe also look at London Boaters Facebook pages.
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I've seen a couple of things hinted at round the forum to this effect. Is there a particular thread on the board that discusses the supposed 'huge changes'?
I'm not in the London system but have friends who are considering it, so I'm out of the loop. But very curious.
There's a few references on this thread about living in London
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I dont know why Waitrose bother opening before 7:30pm - the only time they seem busy is 7:30-8:00pm when everyone goes in the the marked down priced items.
Better to go a 5 minute walk in the other direction to Aldi (although to be fair - that's not the best route to the train station)
They've obviously changed the time then - - I used to find that 16:00 hrs +/- 30 minutes would give the best offers!
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Unless I'm missing something - - you will only be able to run (any) of the 240v electrics providing you are connected to a shorepower supply.
Do you have a mooring (with power) already organised?
(Or will you be buying a 5Kw generator?)
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As Alan de E has said, Newark is lovely, and King's Marina is but a walk across the Waitrose car park to the Newark Castle rail station for a direct train into Lincoln (about £11.40 return)
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Jennifer,
I do not have first hand experience of leasing a mooring in London, (or buying a boat there come to that!) However, I'm led to believe that many boats are substantially overpriced there (as a result of sellers confusing boat values with property values) and the premium for a mooring can be horrific.
Depending upon how far from the centre of London you are contemplating living, there are marinas such as Roydon Marina (in Harlow), which are substantially cheaper than more central London locations such as Limehouse, yet is on a regular train route to the City.
And you can then buy a regularly priced boat anywhere in the UK and drive it down there!!
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My next research task is electrics/gas/generally running the boat. I AM A COMPLETE NOVICE - to the point where I don't even understand how electricity works (seriously.) I don't understand battery sizes, I understand If we're not hooked up to a power supply we will need to run the engine to charge our batteries, but I don't know what this means in terms of cooking,heating, water, etc.
What i DO know is i like the idea of solar panels.
Is there a guide for dummies I can get hold of?
You may like to bury your (reading) head in this rather informative tome (Victron - Energy Unlimited) - 'tis all about batteries!
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Aldi are doing a portable sat system for £60
If you want quality - get an Humax Freesat receiver (a non-record version from £69)
And then get any satellite dish that you wish.
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Those illegally moored barges in Richmond, here's one of them - https://www.airbnb.co.uk/rooms/1524546?s=NNIB. Read the reviews for the full experience. These were condemned by the boat safety scheme, have not had a certificate in years despite what the owner says.
Oh - - what a disarmingly thick-skinned 'erbert is Alistair.
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The only advantage I'm aware of is that the water pump will have to start n stop less frequently, which will probably allow it to live a little longer.
Mind you - - we have a 5Ltr accumulator - - tho' will probably be replaced by a larger one when it expires!