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Thanks. Yes, Simpson Davies has to be the answer.
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I have had this image for some time. It was taken at Runcorn in the early 1950s and shows a couple of six plank boats. One belongs to Jonathan Horsefield Limited, but who owned the Wye behind? It is registered 1158, presumably at Manchester. The kids on the Marjorie have spotted the camera!
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On 18/11/2023 at 09:42, mark99 said:
Prob horse boat. Will get date later.
1920-25. I checked the name too; it's Henry Rathbone.
This photograph pre-dates the electric tug and therefore cannot be 1920-25. The boat is likely to be going through the old tunnel. When the tug was introduced a large semi-circular fender was built in order to guide the boats on tow into the tunnel. That is not present in this photo.
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21 hours ago, mark99 said:
Farmer's Friend was Bowers & Thorley fleet No.1. There are photos of this boat painted differently. Here is another view of the same trip taken at Flint Mill Lock The chap in the background holding a pipe is familiar but I can't put a name to him at the moment. It isn't Primrose Thorley who was one of the owners. I love the upturned tiller to enable the standing steerer to see over the crowd on the image above.
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On 21/06/2022 at 14:55, Heartland said:
In response to GOLIATH
Any ideas as to this view. The clue being near single locks that replaced a James Brindley Triple Riser
As to the painted water cans, it is interesting to see no boat name on them and also ponder on how often a mop handle was painted
The source of the image is RCHS Collection
It took me a while to recognise this view of Middlewich as the buildings in the background have either changed dramatically with a faux half-timber frontage, or been demolished. The Boar's Head to the left of the white-fronted building is still recognisable.
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Are there any businesses out there who would collect and scrap a steel narrowboat. What do people usually do when a boat comes to the end of its economic life?
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January 1975.
c1969. Taken from the Spey.
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A great loss to the waterways of Ireland, his knowledge is irreplaceable. Such a nice man too.
A view of Brian at the wheel of his beloved Knocknagow in a squall on Lough Derg.
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On 15/06/2020 at 14:57, Heartland said:
Whilst there was an important barge traffic to Runcorn, the development of the narrow boat trade there appears to have provided business for the boat builders. An early carrier based at Runcorn was Crockett and Salkeld who trade passed to the Wolverhampton carrier, after 1830, Crowley & Co. Firms such a these were carriers along the Trent & Mersey between Runcorn and the Potteries and the West Midlands.
Could the genesis of the 6 planker be as a result of the Midland trade.
Presumably that would be this firm in 1832.
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47 minutes ago, Scholar Gypsy said:
Thank you, it's been taking me a while to work out where the Rotton Brunt line was....
It would have helped if Mac had written Bradley Locks instead of Brades which is somewhere entirely different. We know what he meant though. ?
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So sad. RIP Laurence.
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On 1/18/2018 at 11:00, Tacet said:
The buildings to the east (left side of photo) are much nearer the lockside than in 1913.
The boundary with the gasworks is the dotted line. It does seem that the high walls were not there in 1913 but by the time of the photo they formed the edge of the coal bunkers.
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1 hour ago, Pluto said:
How about the Wandsworth Canal then? It seems to have been filled in during the mid-1930s.
That's it Mike! To the right is the Metropolitan Water Works, ahead with the chimney is a power station and to the left are the coal bunker walls of the gasworks. The map shows the scene at the 1913 revision - red arrow showing the angle that the photographer took. Thanks for your assistance, much appreciated.
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2 hours ago, Pluto said:
Could it be something like the Kensington Canal in London, with the buildings being part of a power station?
Sadly it isn't the Kensington Canal which was largely gone in the mid c19th.
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I found this photo showing a broad canal being infilled above a lock in the midst of what looks like an ironworks. I have been unable to determine the location. I did think it might be the Nutbrook Canal at Stanton but have now discarded that idea. Any suggestions as to where this is?
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8 hours ago, Heartland said:
The deletion of the image,makes any observations on this topic impossible
Here it is again.
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Although the original image seems to have been deleted I can confirm that Laurence's photo showed the Coke or Glede ovens just south of Rowley Stop on the Dudley No.2 line at Grid Ref SO958876 c1919.
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On 10/25/2017 at 23:42, billh said:
Did Scotia get CS6NW ?
It would seem logical but I don't have any proof.
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My collection of photographs of maintenance craft on the Ashton, Peak Forest and Macclesfield Canals has a number of images showing boats in the late 1940s and 1950s with fleet numbers in various series. For example the motor Joel was CS9NW and President CS15NW, Medic RB16NW, Trojan RB46NW, Istrian or Tyrian was DH6NW, the little transom-sterned cruiser Monty was BM1NW, Weed Cutter Scythia was WC2NW. Does anyone know what the prefix letters meant for each series? I can surmise that RB might mean repair boat and that DH means Dredging Hopper as both Istrian and Tyrian were hand dredge boats and WC is weed cutter, but I can't think what CS means or even BM. It would be great if someone has found a BW accountants asset list for the period that lists these boats. I haven't noticed anything in the archives but it could be easily missed.
Cheers,
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On the Trent and Mersey Canal in the first half of the nineteenth century most traders appear to have carried on a credit basis with an account being submitted to them every so often for payment of all tolls incurred over that period. It is clear that there were cases when cash on the nail was required if a carrier's credit was not good, but this does seem to have been the exception. This would also reduce the amount of cash in the hands of boat captains and passing to toll collectors along with the temptations that go with it.
Many carriers supplied details of the cargo on their own printed notes, and if those were not available, then any old bit of paper or another carrier's paperwork with the heading altered would do. These were issued for each individual consignment and thus the paperwork was voluminous. The permits issued by the canal company were signed at each checking point.
Some examples below, starting with the permit and the signatures of the toll clerks.
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For anyone interested in the use of the boatlift at Anderton, this is a page from the lift log book for September-October 1908. It shows the number of lifts per day and also the number of boats up and down in each caisson.
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Hope you dont mind TB these bring back so many memories I have to comment on a few
Thanks for that blast from the past really enjoyed those photos.
The view of the bridge is taken from the far side towards the opencast and looking back towards Broad Lane. I then turned around to take the shot looking towards the fence and the opencast. At the time British Rail was replacing the bridge and had already lifted in a new span on the other side. Below is the view from the Broad Lane side.
And the three images that were linked to on Flickr.
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I have discussed the purpose of these two buildings with a mate who worked for BW and spent some time at the lift. He is adamant that they were never toll offices. Each one had a fireplace and was probably used as a shelter for lift staff in earlier days. They also contained switchgear connected to the operation of the lift. However, the operation of the lift was conducted entirely from the control cabin high up at the top of the structure. The toll office was above the lift on the Trent & Mersey and the restored buildings were not used for this purpose.
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I have scanned a few more shots that were taken of the Sneyd Branch when I visited in March 1984.
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Claytons' 'Stour'
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The photo is from 1979 Bill.