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I did use a lot of electricity once which proved to be a faulty battery charger .
The fault may well be on the boat so should be investigated.
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1 hour ago, nairb123 said:
If I was to have 2 mooring in separate places would I have to pay the crt EOG fees twice also.
Yes . Pay up .C&RT need your money.
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Could the inlet hose be collapsing due to the extra vacuum created as the pump speeds up with engine revs? The hose has to have sufficient stiffness to resist this.
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13 hours ago, beerbeerbeerbeerbeer said:
and it sounds like a lot of folk on here eat out,
so what do you all keep in the fridge?
Our boat is often moored far from any shop. We may eat out if there is somewhere that looks promising. Usually a longer cruise is a mix of eating in and out. Pubs and restaurants are not necessarily open for food 7 days a week.
We may well have up to 3 days supplies including some oven ready prepared food that needs to be kept chilled, salads and dairy products including milk.
Then there is the Pepsi and of course the Prosecco. (Reminds me I need to stock up with both).
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1 hour ago, magnetman said:
It is remarkable how many they have got hold of.
If including Farndon that makes it eleven
PS While Aquavista manage 29 but don't own them all
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3 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:
I cannot see what interest C&RT could have - its not as if they are going to be moving about and increasing River traffic.
The local authority would obvioulsy need to give residential planning permission and the roads department may get involved to discuss additional traffic movements.Sewage, waste and waste water disposal plans would also be need to be explained.
There are already a small number of residential permissions at Farndon marina (on boats). I don't mind that since its good for security.
I don' t know the exact details of the permissions already in place but suspect that might allow some floating lodges to be installed as long as the rules already existing are obeyed. After all a floating lodge isn't much different in principle to a boat.
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3 minutes ago, Gybe Ho said:
Would the CRT have any control over such change of use? Presumably when they originally gave permission for a new flooded excavation attached to their canal their decision was based on the enhanced amenity value for the canal network as a whole.
C&RT do not issue planning permissions. And Farndon Marina is not linked to a canal but is linked to the River Trent.
However if the installation of floating lodges requires planning permission it may well be that C&RT would take an interest.
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The sale has happened quite quickly really as the marina was only first advertised at from February .
Selling a house can easily take longer than that.
We haven't known with certainty the true identity of the new owners until the other day although there have of course been lots of rumours.
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On 22/06/2025 at 19:45, MtB said:
And there was a thread on here two or three years ago about a GRP cruiser exploding on the fuel pontoon in a marina IIRC.
The owner had been in the habit of taking his petrol-fueled boat to the diesel fuel pontoon to fill it with petrol from cans he brought along himself, and it exploded, or something along those lines. ISTR several boats were lost.
If that was the Burton Waters incident I think he had refuelled with the marinas petrol .
Burton Waters certainly sell both petrol and diesel from the same fuel berth .
20 hours ago, cheesegas said:There’s also plenty of GRP boat fires which result in the hull being consumed by fire down to the waterline.
I agree . The term ''fire retardant'' is often not well understood.
GRP is not good in a fire.
But then again fire in a steel hulled boat may lead to a total loss after a fire . eg. Most narrowboats are fitted out with combustible materials and some may well use combustible insulation.
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7 hours ago, ditchcrawler said:
Boats are not cheap.
My exact thought .
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29 minutes ago, MtB said:
Its meaningless anyway. My 12 year-old grunty Audi can display instantaneous MPG and if I watch it, the display changes between 2 MPG and 300 MPG depending on how far down I happen to be pressing the accelerator pedal. Less then useless!
I'm surprised it goes up to 300mpg. I think my car doesn't go above 99.9
But I agree instantaneous mpg is not really any benefit on a car.
However on a fast salty water motorboat which has gps speed the instantaneous mpg can help set the most economical speed. I'm afraid I don't have that on my boat so just have to guess.
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45 minutes ago, AJLElectronics said:
You are talking about a hazard which is not normal.
Of course the potential injury or death from fire / exolosion hazard due to the volatility of petrol vapour is a normal hazard.
But the risk is usually well managed.
There is a difference between risk and hazard. The risk can in mot circumstances be mitigated to an acceptably low level. But the hazard and the consequences remain the same.
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26 minutes ago, David Mack said:
It may pass the BSS but almost certainly won't meet the manufacturers recommendations for fresh air to the engine for combustion and cooling, or for dispersal of exhaust gases. So if you try and run it in such a locker it will probably expire pretty quickly.
I meant a petrol generator may be stored in a gas locker when not in use. I thoght that it was clear but obviously wrongly open to interpretation. I think a petrol generator should be 20ft from any boat when in use.
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35 minutes ago, T_i_m said:
Round our way I think it's probably 50% NBs, 50% a mix of plastic cruisers (Micro Plus up to ex Norfork hire boats), floating sheds, sunken wrecks, ex oil rig escape boats ...
The resident U boats around here are very much in the minority. Most seen are passing through.
3 hours ago, AJLElectronics said:The only hazard from petrol use is CO but then so it is from diesel. If the exhausts are properly configured, there is nothing to choose between them.
Not really.
The CO from a diesel exhaust is relatively low. But there is other stuff in diesel exhaust that is just as bad but kills you slowly.
Petrol is much more volatile than diesel and the exhaust gas from a petrol engine is much more deadly.
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9 hours ago, AJLElectronics said:
MPG as an instantaneous figure is nonsense of course. It can only be worked out by filling the tank and recording the fuel used against mileage when the tank is next filled. Doing that over a year or so will be a realistic resulting calculation.
Mpg is not necessarily an instantaneous figure. It can be an average over an extended time as you suggest and that is the only way most boaters can measure mpg. Common rail diesels on some boats up to 20 years old now can display instantaneous mpg like many cars but that's less common among the simple diesels found on inland waterways vessels.
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2 hours ago, blackrose said:
Not prohibited, but if a BSS inspector happened to see a petrol generator on a boat stored in the usual places such as on the deck above the engine, bow well deck near door vents, or anywhere else that petrol fumes or exhaust fumes could potentially enter the boat it's a likely fail. They just don't want to see them on boats.
I've never really understood how inboard petrol engines on GRP cruisers get through their safety inspections. I guess they must have brushless bilge blowers or something like that installed?
Yes they do have bilge blowers. My boat has them even though it's diesel.
Many boats run on petrol.
I agree a petrol generator may be on a boat and pass a BSS if it is in a locker with a drain overboard. But to be certain it's best to take the generator off the boat for the BSS exam.
Similarly any petrol outboard for a dinghy best taken off the boats for the BSS exam.
Remember not every boat on the inland waterways is a narrowboat.
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Petrol on boats is no prohibited.
But I think running a petrol generator within 20 feet of any boat should be prohibited.
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7 minutes ago, Lady M said:
Thank you but in that case why has the incident caused a CRT notice to be issued?
The River Trent below Gainsborough is managed by ABP.
But it is a stretch of water used by many C&RT licensed boats. Therefore its only correct that C&RT should post a notice about something that may affect their license holders.
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On 14/06/2025 at 23:09, Lady M said:
Well today they have reported a boat sunk in the R Trent with closest waterways of Chesterfield Canal and Stainforth & Keadby Canal.
That statement was correct in the sense that the message referred to the closest C&RT waterways .
The River Trent at that location is not a C&RT waterway.
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My boat uses about 60 litres per hr at comfortable fast cruising which is 23kts.
Needless to say I don't do 23kts very often.........and certainly not on a canal.
At slow speed which for my boat is generally 5 kts I guess its using about 9 litres/hr.
I don't think of mpg for the boat as the numbers are quite small like about 2mpg at fast and 3mpg at slow .
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7 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:
My understanding is that Jerry cans (proper ones - not plastic 'water carriers') are rated at 20 litres but are actually capable of holding around 22 litres. The 'difference' is to allow for fuel expansion in hot climates (eg when carried on vehicles in the desert)
There is also the practicality of pouring the liquid from a container. It is never going to be easy to start to pour liquid from the container that is completely filled. Not everyone will have a pump to transfer the fuel from the container to the boat.
However I agree expansion is a factor. Apparently diesel expands just under 1% for every 10 degrees increase in temperature as referenced below.
So probably best not to 100% fill any container or fuel tank in hot weather conditions.
https://www.fueltek.co.uk/equations-of-diesel-you-must-know/
On that note you would in theory get more fuel for your money if refuelling in a cold snap in January compared to a heat wave in June.... but it's not a life changing amount.
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8 hours ago, MtB said:
Another possibility is to avoid squabbles about how many litres of diesel have been dispensed. The meter says 20 litres have been put in the container.The customer then points out there is still 3" of space in the top of their 20 litre jerry can and insists on the retailer filling to the brim.
That's a very good point and, now you mention it ,would seem the most likely explanation.
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Selling liquid fuel by weight is perhaps appropriate as the same energy will be dispensed regardless of the temperature of the fuel. So this is very fair for people taking fuel in jerry cans assuming the scales used are accurate.
As has been said the weight sale refers only to jerry can sales. I am guessing the calibration of the pump when dispensing small quantities has been found to be lacking acceptable accuracy.
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In Greece and possibly some other countries they may have a small bin with a nappy bag size disposable bag liner into which you place the used toilet paper.
That avoids or at least minimises the amount of loo paper that is flushed.
In any case some sanitary products should not be flushed and nor should wet wipes.
The nappy bag and contents then go in the domestic refuse .
Tonic required. Send in your photos of what is nice on the waterways now.
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Birds don't have babies .
They have chicks which hatch from eggs.