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lulu fish

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  1. 1 hour ago, Tony Brooks said:

    I would suggest that a broker is passing himself off as an EXPERT (legal word) in selling boats for their owners and as such has a duty of care not only to the owner but also to the buyer. I would suggest that you can not negate that duty of care by  using such clauses. However as its never beed challenged and is unlikely to be there is little point in arguing about it. In my book brokers are the same as estate agents and MPs - in it for all they can get out of it and sod anyone else.

    That contract has been challenged an awful lot. It has always been found to be watertight. 

  2. 4 hours ago, Tony Brooks said:

    They do but I think that if someone with sufficient funds took they to court that may well be judged an unfair contract term and be struck out.  Not that it helps the OP in any way, more a comment on the ethics of the likes of brokers.

    There is no way on earth that contract clause would be judged as unfair.  

  3. 8 minutes ago, Rose Narrowboats said:

    Tumblehome is the inward slope of the cabin sides - important if you care about aesthetics and/or walking down the gunwale.

    Anyone fancy a wager that it's originally a Hancock & Lane hull with a 2009 cabin and fit out? The only way it's a 10/15mm is if it's been overplated. Many H&L hulls were 3/16" (4.8mm) hullsides, so if overplated up to the top strake (which would explain the missing guard iron on the bow) with 5mm, that would add up to 10mm hullsides, ditto for an 8mm baseplate and about 0 for accuracy in the broker's description :)

    It doesn't look like a Hancock and Lane at all

    Unlikely that the broker would put their reputation on the line by advertising an old boat as a new

    Similarly, they wouldn't advertise a boat as being 10mm if it was actually original 4.8 overplated with 5mm.  

  4. 2 hours ago, Athy said:

    Welcome to CWDF, Tawny.

    The boat which you have "plucked" is a Springer, an example of the first mass-produced narrowboats ever built. The last ones are now over 20 years old (this one is over 30 years old) but most seem to be still afloat. It's half your budget, so you could do much better. That said, it looks sound, though externally scruffy; beware of the word "project" used in a seller's description: this is brokerese for "work needs doing" which could be anything from a coat of paint to hull welding and a new engine.

    I suggest that you go and see this boat (or another, convenient to where you live, which you can pluck from the Apollo Duck Narrowboats web site) and get an idea of how closely the photos and description match the reality. Do not be shy of posting other boats which interest you on here: you will get (sometimes conflicting) advice mingled with occasional caustic comments, but you'll pick up hints and tips from them. I appreciate that you aren't beginners - my wife and I started out as hirers 20+ years ago - but there's a lot to learn when you move into ownership of a boat.

    I'm sure it will come as no surprise to them that a boat described as a project will need work. 

  5. 38 minutes ago, Jerra said:

    Butv still on the statue books and still in the terms and conditions.  I wasn't aware that there were certain laws it was legal to ignore.  For example a police man pointed out to me it was still illegal to have an out of date tax disc in your car window.   No longer required but still against the law.

    Well you can follow old laws that are no longer needed or enforced if you wish.  I'll not bother, thanks.

  6. 1 minute ago, Dave Payne said:

    Check me boat out, looks untidy without even looking at the tiny bits of paper in the window!

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    That looks pretty tidy by my standards.  It is the view out of the windows from the inside that I don't like being cluttered.  

  7. 3 minutes ago, Dave Payne said:

    I think ill keep mine in the window.

     

    From here

    Although we don’t need to see your discs to know whether a boat is licensed, it’s still a legal requirement to display them along with your boat name and index number.

    Enjoy your unnecessarily untidy windows.  May as well just use sticky tape then, it will look crap either way. 

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