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1 hour ago, Tony Brooks said:
I would suggest that a broker is passing himself off as an EXPERT (legal word) in selling boats for their owners and as such has a duty of care not only to the owner but also to the buyer. I would suggest that you can not negate that duty of care by using such clauses. However as its never beed challenged and is unlikely to be there is little point in arguing about it. In my book brokers are the same as estate agents and MPs - in it for all they can get out of it and sod anyone else.
That contract has been challenged an awful lot. It has always been found to be watertight.
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23 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:
We spend anywhere between a weekend and 3 or 4 months at a time aboard (we are retarded - and free to come and go as we please)
Excellent typo
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4 hours ago, Tony Brooks said:
They do but I think that if someone with sufficient funds took they to court that may well be judged an unfair contract term and be struck out. Not that it helps the OP in any way, more a comment on the ethics of the likes of brokers.
There is no way on earth that contract clause would be judged as unfair.
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Is the 5 mm sides and bottom or just the sides?
Kedian engineering is the place for side hatches.
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22 minutes ago, bargemast said:
Even if they would have advertised as 9.8 mm it wouldn't have been the real plate thickness, as only the outer plate counts with an ultra son tester.
Peter.
That was my point.
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Is there any evidence that they've done anything wrong other than m ross' s word? Maybe this is just someone he fell out with.
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8 minutes ago, Rose Narrowboats said:
Tumblehome is the inward slope of the cabin sides - important if you care about aesthetics and/or walking down the gunwale.
Anyone fancy a wager that it's originally a Hancock & Lane hull with a 2009 cabin and fit out? The only way it's a 10/15mm is if it's been overplated. Many H&L hulls were 3/16" (4.8mm) hullsides, so if overplated up to the top strake (which would explain the missing guard iron on the bow) with 5mm, that would add up to 10mm hullsides, ditto for an 8mm baseplate and about 0 for accuracy in the broker's description
It doesn't look like a Hancock and Lane at all
Unlikely that the broker would put their reputation on the line by advertising an old boat as a new
Similarly, they wouldn't advertise a boat as being 10mm if it was actually original 4.8 overplated with 5mm.
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2 hours ago, Athy said:
Welcome to CWDF, Tawny.
The boat which you have "plucked" is a Springer, an example of the first mass-produced narrowboats ever built. The last ones are now over 20 years old (this one is over 30 years old) but most seem to be still afloat. It's half your budget, so you could do much better. That said, it looks sound, though externally scruffy; beware of the word "project" used in a seller's description: this is brokerese for "work needs doing" which could be anything from a coat of paint to hull welding and a new engine.
I suggest that you go and see this boat (or another, convenient to where you live, which you can pluck from the Apollo Duck Narrowboats web site) and get an idea of how closely the photos and description match the reality. Do not be shy of posting other boats which interest you on here: you will get (sometimes conflicting) advice mingled with occasional caustic comments, but you'll pick up hints and tips from them. I appreciate that you aren't beginners - my wife and I started out as hirers 20+ years ago - but there's a lot to learn when you move into ownership of a boat.
I'm sure it will come as no surprise to them that a boat described as a project will need work.
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49 minutes ago, mark99 said:
Can't see properly but looks like no full length gunnells (gunwhales) either.
gunwales
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ABC boat builders in Boston would do this.
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Not being allowed to run the engine after 8pm is also a myth
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That Elton Moss widebeam won? It was hideous!
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Looks like a good buy for that price, maybe even a little under priced in the current market. I like the corner bath, I would have to paint that stove though
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38 minutes ago, Jerra said:
Butv still on the statue books and still in the terms and conditions. I wasn't aware that there were certain laws it was legal to ignore. For example a police man pointed out to me it was still illegal to have an out of date tax disc in your car window. No longer required but still against the law.
Well you can follow old laws that are no longer needed or enforced if you wish. I'll not bother, thanks.
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1 hour ago, Jerra said:
Yet another case of CRT must do everything according to the letter of the law but boaters don't need to bother about the law?
The law in this instance is outdated, no longer needed and no longer enforced.
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Wasn't Greenlaw for sale only last year?
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Just now, Dave Payne said:
Maybe ill stick them in the sky light, make the logger work for his money
The logger won't look at them anyway. Which is why they are not needed.
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The answer to all of your questions depend on the price it is being sold for.
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3 minutes ago, Dave Payne said:
I think ill keep mine in the window.
From here.
Although we don’t need to see your discs to know whether a boat is licensed, it’s still a legal requirement to display them along with your boat name and index number.
Enjoy your unnecessarily untidy windows. May as well just use sticky tape then, it will look crap either way.
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If it is needed for the forum to survive and it is just for guests, why not? Any that don't like it can just join up or turn on adblocker. I would also look into why this shortfall has come about in the first place. Figure out what has driven away your donators.
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6 minutes ago, Dave Payne said:
That one again, do you have anything from CRT to back that up?
I have asked them, they told me it was no longer necessary. Have you ever heard of anyone getting trouble for not displaying a licence?
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No need to display them as long as you have your index number displayed. They will just make your windows look untidy.
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I pull a stupid face and hope they don't notice until they get home and check their pictures. That or stick the finger up at them, depending on what type of mood I'm in.
12 minutes ago, mrsmelly said:Yep, there is no such thing as bad publicity in business.
Mr Ratner may disagree
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Capital gains on gifted boat?
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No they don't. CaRT don't even keep any records of who owns the boats on their system, only who licences them.