[Boat prices with moorings (London)]

19 minutes ago, Jim Batty said:

Paying a premium on a boat for the right to rent and enjoy its mooring will only work financially if you can retain that mooring over the long term ... and you don't leave it. 

 

I think you need to be fairly sure you will remain static (or only do it for a couple of years) to go down this route. 

 

Hi Jim.

 

Thank you for the reply. All the questions in your reply you asked are part of what I am trying to decide. I can bide my time so I want to see as many boats / moorings and compare mooring fees etc. at the moment.

 

I have a good job in the area. The dream though is at some point to have a narrowboat I guess, Tug style to allow cruising over the summer, or later for longer - but this due to my job is further in the future. The boat Emily that won at Crick and is now up for sale (at a ridiculously high price) is close to my dream boat I guess eventually. 

 

I say narrowboat so I could get to Peterborough for example, which is not accessible from the south in a Widebeam. Also, dutch barge style boats would have height issues too. Aesthetically I don't lust after a widebeam - but for a few years a widebeam would be more comfortable to live on at first and then downsize later perhaps when leaving the mooring. Also these are more available and the mooring costs are the same buy length. 

 

It is whether selling the same boat, with the mooring would retain a bunch of value.

 

I cannot afford as a single person in this area to get a mortgage right now, but luckily have enough to outright buy a boat and pay more upfront for the mooring. The cost of the mooring's ongoing fees will be the dealbreaker money wise.

 

Regarding the quote above - I am a bit confused as you said it would be worthwhile long term but then later say a couple of years. Can you explain and elaborate of this bit please?

 

Thanks again.

[Boat prices with moorings (London)]

On 15/04/2021 at 18:21, Tam & Di said:

Presumably you're not viewing one of these   ?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-35871064

 

No.Definitelyy not. :-)

11 hours ago, blackrose said:

Are you referring to the barges moored upstream of the bridge on the north/west bank just downstream of the EA public moorings? Are you sure they have no legal right to be there? I might be wrong but I thought they were private moorings? There are also some private moorings opposite that I assumed were legal too.

 

No - Marinas in Surbiton / Thames Ditton.

On 15/04/2021 at 18:58, mark99 said:

IIRC there were some very expensive "boats that are really flats" moored very near Kingston Bridge that did not have any legal right to be there. Be carefull.

 

Are you however referring to the Marina near Surbiton?

 

Yes. Surbiton and Thames Ditton.

[Boat prices with moorings (London)]

On 14/04/2021 at 07:58, Tony Brooks said:

The Thames "near Richmond" is tidal and I don't recall many moorings against the banks or floating pontoons but a fair number on trots some way out into the river. Plus there are some marina type moorings but I saw none near Richmond when I used Brentford to go on or off the Thames.

 

I should have been clearer they are on the other side of the Teddington Lock near Kingston, I just get used to saying Richmond as I live right near the lock.

On 13/04/2021 at 20:47, sueb said:

What security do you get with the mooring if any? Unless you are buying a freehold mooring I would be very wary.

 

I will discuss this at the viewings and find out. Thanks.

On 13/04/2021 at 21:08, zenataomm said:

Does the owner of the moorings the boat is on confirm the moorings are transferrable?

Have you evidence of tenants' rights, or is it a yearly renewable contract, worse still is it an agreement that can be terminated by either side with short notice?

 

The boats are advertised on behalf of the Marina(s) as far as I can tell. But I will find out at the viewings. Thank you.

[Boat prices with moorings (London)]

Hi all,

 

I have been lurking for years, been to the Crick Boat Show etc. but am now in the position to buy my first liveaboard boat (in west London).

 

There are a few boats with moorings that I am considering (on the Thames near Richmond) and I am wondering about how moorings affect the value of boats. Obviously the boat's value itself will deteriorate over time, but does the portion that you pay for the "privilege" of it coming with a mooring also devalue or does it go up?

 

I have seen moorings without boats that have very reasonable monthly fees, but timing the buying of a cheaper boat and getting the mooring is unlikely.

 

I guess I'm asking, does paying over the value of a boat because of the mooring that comes with it become worthwhile, as later on when you sell your boat with the mooring that extra still retains its value even when the boat doesn't?

 

Thanks

[No Traditional Engine Room on a Tug]

8 hours ago, dmr said:

Do consider that you might want to sell this boat one day. Tug decks are a ludicrous waste of space so in general only appeal to a small number of fanatical boaters (I include myself here) and 99% of these would also want an engine room to waste even more space, and I know engine rooms are a waste of space because I read it on this forum.

 

...............Dave

 

Thanks. I’m not sure about the space. Cause if you have a pullout bed with storage or washing machine etc under there you actually have storage without a long dark corridor of cupboards. Cruiser sterns are similarly a waste of space. 

 

So you have a tug? Have you wished you didn’t?

[No Traditional Engine Room on a Tug]

Hi All,

 

Been dreaming for a few years now... and have been designing my perfect layout in my head all this time.

 

I really like Tugs - visited Crick Boat Show a few years ago and the boat that won was an awesome Tug - Emily I think. Anyway, Here's the question which might cause a disturbance and strong opinions:

 

Does a Tug have to have a traditional engine room and vintage (style) engine rather than a modern trad engine in the back?

 

I know nothing about engines and am thinking I would need the space for other things.

 

Thanks,

 

Miles

[New to Boating]

Hi,

 

I am currently a music teacher and I am seriously considering buying a narrowboat to live on while completing a phd... but have no experience with boating.

 

Taking a narrowboat holiday is an option to get a feel for it, but requires organising friends etc and wouldn't involve anyone with any experience I could learn from.

 

Is there anyone that would allow me to help aboard their boat for a day or two?

 

You would have to teach me how to moor, steer, operate locks etc at first, but once learned I can help you along the canal. I can also offer cooking, but you would have to be happy eating vegan for a couple of days.

 

I live in Kent, so if you are in the south / southeast and wouldn't mind trading some knowledge and experience for some help aboard your narrowboat over the summer holidays, or know somebody else that may, please let me know.

 

Thanks,

 

Miles