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Images of the Bridgewater dewatered at Boothstown in 1990

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These pictures have popped up on a plant group that I belong to on Facebook.... thought some might find them interesting on here. Apparently they date from the 1990’s881BBFAF-FAED-4C61-9077-A0C92D60CEBE.jpeg.9c657c31367cad41cd99ec9f26047337.jpeg0B222659-8ABD-4FA2-8EB6-D2B01977C1AF.jpeg.d77e8637bb981623d54b56e0e4197f5c.jpeg67C70EBC-0F74-49BC-B607-4F3BB9F21687.jpeg.29596342faa9555bded4c611bd174de9.jpeg67C70EBC-0F74-49BC-B607-4F3BB9F21687.jpeg.29596342faa9555bded4c611bd174de9.jpeg6E065852-7C71-4383-A3AD-8CB024FCEA62.jpeg.dde364c94e01707930deecc332d98b49.jpeg

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14 minutes ago, captain birdseye said:

That's Boothstown basin between on the Leigh branch between Worsley and Astley when they were constructing the new Marina and pub

Does anyone know if any records were kept of the boats found? 

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1991 I think, fairly sure I drove there in a hired Ford Fiesta automatic  I was recovering from a broken leg at the time. 

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1 hour ago, frangar said:

Does anyone know if any records were kept of the boats found? 

 

I seem to recall Laurence Hogg saying they were all destroyed without being recorded (other than photos like these).

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1 hour ago, Victor Vectis said:

Whats that 16T mineral doing there?

 

:unsure:

The story I was told was  this:

a rake of wagons were let go  down the Manchester Collieries railway by vandals  in the 1960s, the railway was still in use though the boat  coal loading facility may not have been. The wagons fell into the basin and one of them (pictured) was not recovered at the time. Strange to relate, that wagon WAS recovered at the time these pictures were taken and it now resides at the Astley Green Colliery Museum, the only "vehicle" to have been rescued, none of the boats survived. I remember seeing boats 3 deep on a visit there. Box boats,complete with containers on top of others and a topping off of L & L short boats,all rather dramatic. Also at Astley Green are the remains of the NCB motor tug "Fred" , this was a box boat motorised with a Gardner 2L2(?),that engine went into NB Monarch when Fred was sold  in early 70s.

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5 hours ago, BuckbyLocks said:

It was very hard to identify most of them. Frank and Ribble come to mind, but I certainly didn't try to list them. 

Is Ribble in there?

 

Maybe @DRP knows more about this.

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Ribble was not in the basin, Frank, Lily, Catus, Tom, Lark and Kite are the named boats I remember the others just had numbers. The car was a Volvo 340.

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As matter of interest it was the coal shute at Boothstown Basin illustrated on the film clip Where No Tides flow from   Nov 28th, Short boat Denise Ex Pluto loading coal circa 1961.

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I did a fairly extensive photographic record, with Greater Manchester Archaeological Unit also surveying the site and producing a report. A couple of boat sections were removed to Ellesmere Port.  I have a copy of the initial list of 23 boats which GMAU produced, though the list was refined subsequently. I wrote the following shortly after the excavation:

 

Booths Hall Basin was built towards the end of the last century and was subject to subsidence so became deeper over the years. Besides pit shale, the basin became a dumping ground for old boats which were costly to dismantle. It has been suggested that there are four layers of boats sunk here which would mean that the canal has subsided about twenty five feet, a not impossible amount. Certainly two layers of boat are visible, any more are  covered by pit shale.

Among the lower layer can be seen several box boats, an early form of containerisation and used to carry coal on the Bridgewater. One at least is  complete with its boxes which it is hoped will be removed for preservation. There is also one of the Anderton narrow boats together with several wide boats. An iron boat, possibly one of the Bridgewater steam tugs is also reputed to be here. The upper layer consists of the two unsold NCB box boats and ten wide boats. These are both round and square sterned, three being similar to the GEORGE at Ellesmere Port. Most probably date from early this century, though the KITTY could be earlier. Her fine lines and sloping stern post would reduce carrying capacity but make it easier for towing by horse. The wide boats are a typical cross section of the various types used for coal carrying on the Bridgewater and Leeds and Liverpool, comprising horse boats, dumb boats (towed by tugs) and two motor boats, the TOM built in the 1920s and FRANK built in 1948.

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Not much to be seen as to what was beneath the water in around 1983:

 

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Edited by Derek R.

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Wow. I’m glad I posted them now. Thanks for everyone’s input. Really interesting to read. 

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The shopping trolleys must have been removed before the photos were taken.

I suppose the railway wagon counts as a very big shopping trolley.

 

Jen ?

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The GMAU report gives Ribble as being registered in Manchester, No. 578, in 1936, and the owner being Manchester Collieries.

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P A Norton photographed this basin March 8th 1959 Railway & Canal Historical Society Ref 64320

 

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14 minutes ago, Ian F B said:

Renault 12?

Not a Renault 12. We had several so am familiar! There is still the ancient crumbling wreck of a Renault 12 estate in my driveway. ?

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On 14/01/2019 at 21:46, BWM said:

Any idea what the car is?

 

On 14/01/2019 at 23:53, Señor Chris said:

Mk1 Astra.

 

 

 I agree with Senor Chris, it's a Vauxhall Astra Mk1

 

 

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