CompairHolman Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 Has anyone investigated into buying offside land on a CRT canal and creating their own mooring ? Does CRT have a policy on this , would they never allow it, or would they consider it ? We want to know because when were out and about on our boat we sometimes see spots that would make a nice mooring and we start dreaming of our perfect mooring isolated out in the countryside, a vegetable patch for me, and the wife wants to open a hedgehog hospital for some reason ! Better we know now if there's no chance of it being allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmelly Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 minute ago, CompairHolman said: Has anyone investigated into buying offside land on a CRT canal and creating their own mooring ? Does CRT have a policy on this , would they never allow it, or would they consider it ? We want to know because when were out and about on our boat we sometimes see spots that would make a nice mooring and we start dreaming of our perfect mooring isolated out in the countryside, a vegetable patch for me, and the wife wants to open a hedgehog hospital for some reason ! Better we know now if there's no chance of it being allowed. Its been done numerous times countywide, and at the end of many peoples gardens. Some get allowed some dont. It is not a cheap thing to do especialy on a nice rural stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 11 minutes ago, mrsmelly said: Its been done numerous times countywide, and at the end of many peoples gardens. Some get allowed some dont. It is not a cheap thing to do especialy on a nice rural stretch. And if you want to live there you need planning consent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mack Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 End of garden - maybe. A piece of field in the middle of the coutryside - unlikely. See https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/enjoy-the-waterways/boating/moorings/long-term-moorings . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBiscuits Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 One of our members was doing just this at the end of last year, but I don't know how he got on with it. I think the plot he was looking at had previously been a mooring though - it wasn't just a nice lump of a random field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmr Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 It might be allowed, it might not, its up to CaRT to decide and you have to pay to make an application. Will it upset navigation???? The offside is usually shallow so you will likely need to dredge, you Must use a CaRT approved contractor for this, budget for £10,000. After this investment CaRT still reserve the right to remove their permission at a later if they so wish, but they do say they won't be unreasonable. Maybe somebody building a new marina nearby could be a reason, I really don't know. Even if its not residential you still might need planning permission. .................Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boater Sam Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 Done. PM me if you want detail. It is very involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CompairHolman Posted January 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 If they can refuse to renew your mooring agreement at any time you would be left with owning land that is probably useless to anyone else. Nasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Movin' on Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 12 hours ago, CompairHolman said: Has anyone investigated into buying offside land on a CRT canal and creating their own mooring ? Does CRT have a policy on this , would they never allow it, or would they consider it ? We want to know because when were out and about on our boat we sometimes see spots that would make a nice mooring and we start dreaming of our perfect mooring isolated out in the countryside, a vegetable patch for me, and the wife wants to open a hedgehog hospital for some reason ! Better we know now if there's no chance of it being allowed. You might have better luck trying rivers - there are quite often plots available on the Nene and Soar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Halsey said: You might have better luck trying rivers - there are quite often plots available on the Nene and Soar And if buying land alongside a River, it would NORMALLY come with rights that you own up to the centre of the River (check with your Solicitor before buying) so that C&RT cannot stop you having a mooring. Add "plots available on the Trent" to the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 Over the last few years, several boaters have created such moorings, with gardens or veg. plots, below Cropredy. I do not know if these have been bought or rented from the farmer. Alan is correct in saying that a river mooring usually comes with riparian rights - our end-of-garden one does. Beware though: you'll have no water, electricity, road access or sewage disposal, so in inclement weather it might not be quite the good life that you imagine it to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 23 minutes ago, Athy said: …. no water, electricity, road access...………….. Good point - there may not be many takers for the Hedgehog Hospital if you an only access the site 'by water' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Dog Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 51 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said: Good point - there may not be many takers for the Hedgehog Hospital if you an only access the site 'by water' Injured hedgehogs can't afford to be that choosy, surely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Riley Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 3 hours ago, Alan de Enfield said: And if buying land alongside a River, it would NORMALLY come with rights that you own up to the centre of the River (check with your Solicitor before buying) so that C&RT cannot stop you having a mooring. Add "plots available on the Trent" to the list. Best check with cart whether they are in or out of the main navigable channel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelMoore Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Jim Riley said: Best check with cart whether they are in or out of the main navigable channel. According to which of the definitions they adopt? Irrelevant though, as official recognition is given in BW's old EoG 'informative' (long since brushed under the carpet as it is) to riparian rights of mooring on rivers. Referred and linked to several times here, over the years, within identical topics, but the link no longer gets anywhere. If I remember next week, when back at a 'proper' computer, I will try to find it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markinaboat Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 3 hours ago, Sea Dog said: Injured hedgehogs can't afford to be that choosy, surely! Visions of many hedgehogs drifting in small inflatables! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Markinaboat said: Visions of many hedgehogs drifting in small inflatables! ? ....which would be punctured before they had got anywhere near their destination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Robbo Posted January 9, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, Markinaboat said: Visions of many hedgehogs drifting in small inflatables! ? You laugh but... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markinaboat Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 8 minutes ago, Athy said: ....which would be punctured before they had got anywhere near their destination. not if they stuck tiny polystyrene balls on their spikes which could be offered as a first class upgrade! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBiscuits Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Markinaboat said: not if they stuck tiny polystyrene balls on their spikes which could be offered as a first class upgrade! If my balls were stuck on spikes I'd want to go to hospital too! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markinaboat Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 Just now, TheBiscuits said: If my balls were stuck on spikes I'd want to go to hospital too! Oh I don't know, some people would pay for that! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Movin' on Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 13 minutes ago, Robbo said: You laugh but... I'm getting a little uncomfortable now you are linking mustard and hedgehogs? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBiscuits Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Halsey said: I'm getting a little uncomfortable now you are linking mustard and hedgehogs? Would you prefer horseradish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 Hedgehog crisps use to e popular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 Roll them in clay prior to putting them in the fire. When cooked, break open the pot and the spines come away with it... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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