howardang Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 3 hours ago, Captain Dread said: Well, at the time I was suffering with pluresy plus dealing with a personal family matter. It also looks like the ebay user that sold me the boat is now selling the outboard motor which was meant to come with the boat I am sorry to read that you have had a problem with your boat purchase, but it is very difficult to avoid pointing out the dangers of buying anything of value such as a boat on Ebay, especially so when, I presume, cash was handed over before sighting the boat. I presume that you have raised the issue with Ebay? i sympathise with the fact that you were ill and had additional problems, but please remember if there is a next time, that if it looks like a bargain it quite often is not. Howard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Dread Posted January 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 (edited) Thanks for pointing out these hazards Howard, this boat has been the 4th boat I have bought so I'm not a noob at this. Ebay has been notified, along with the harbour master, I have also emailed the seller asking where the systems are. I was hoping to get it chartered out in the season and hopefully make some cash... So much for that idea. Edited January 22, 2019 by Captain Dread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howardang Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 13 minutes ago, Captain Dread said: Thanks for pointing out these hazards Howard, this boat has been the 4th boat I have bought so I'm not a noob at this. Ebay has been notified, along with the harbour master, I have also emailed the seller asking where the systems are. I was hoping to get it chartered out in the season and hopefully make some cash... So much for that idea. Sorry, I hadn't realised that you are an old hand at buying boats from Ebay, but personally, I would never buy a boat, sight unseen, from an auction sight, especially seeing that the intention is to put it into the yacht charter market. With your experience so far, I suppose that you decided not to have a survey prior to purchase, but surely with a boat that is going to enter the commercial market, being eventually chartered out to the public, it would give you peace of mind to satisfy yourself that the boat will live up to your expectations. Good luck with your venture. Howard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlt Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 It looks like it has potential so if you can't get the money back you can either cut your losses and try to get a few thousand back or put another engine in and have a very nice looking boat eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Dread Posted January 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 @howardang The survey was actually next on the list after testing, when I got there it didn't even have a battery let alone a control panel or ignition. carlt, not sure what the hell I'm going to do now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Captain Dread said: not sure what the hell I'm going to do now. I don't think you will get much help from ebay as they have a policy of not covering refunds and their 'Vehicle Purchase Protection' scheme and the 'Money Back Guarantee' do not apply to motor vehicles (including boats) in the UK. The schemes are applied in the USA, but apparently are not legal in the UK. Assuming you paid by Paypal you can try and get a refund from them as it was 'not as described' but it is not an easy process ( fine with something small like a sleeping bag, but doesn't seem to work on things like cars) Presumably you would need a full 'commercial' survey and safety checks after you had fitted it out to get the MCA coding as a charter boat. What category rating will you be applying for ? My boat is Category 0 (unrestricted - use anywhere and any distance from safe haven) Good luck Edited January 22, 2019 by Alan de Enfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Dread Posted January 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 Alan, I bought it as a fully functioning boat, it didn't need that much doing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlt Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 8 minutes ago, Captain Dread said: @howardang carlt, not sure what the hell I'm going to do now. Well first of all fight like crazy to get your money back. When that's failed assess your options and decide whether you want to keep the boat and get it seaworthy again or cut your losses and try to recoup some of the lost money. If you decide to keep it then I'd look at moving it by road or chartering a tow to get it nearer to you so you can work on it at your leisure. I wish I could help but my boat's in salcombe heading the other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, Captain Dread said: Alan, I bought it as a fully functioning boat, it didn't need that much doing... Sounds like it should have been a good-buy (was it already coded for charter ?) There must be some action you can take have you spoken with Citizens Advice ? 2 minutes ago, carlt said: I wish I could help but my boat's in salcombe heading the other way. Called in there last Summer - they put us on a visitors mooring and it was like being on the central reservation on the M1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlt Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said: Called in there last Summer - they put us on a visitors mooring and it was like being on the central reservation on the M1 I'm on a pontoon on The Bag so it's pretty peaceful. Ridiculously expensive though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 1 minute ago, carlt said: I'm on a pontoon on The Bag so it's pretty peaceful. Ridiculously expensive though. We were only in for one night. It didn't seem particularly expensive £30-£40 per night seems to be the going rate. I think we paid £38 a night at Plymouth (Mayflower Marina) and they moored us next to the multi-million pound Princess yachts awaiting sea-trails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Dread Posted January 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 Alan, Ebay are currently looking at the users selling... I've also spoken to the police and currently getting all the info on the boat so I can prosecute. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Son Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 Good luck, lets hope the seller gets what they deserve!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBiscuits Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 4 hours ago, Old Son said: Good luck, lets hope the seller gets what they deserve!! A job as a used car salesman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Dread Posted January 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 No, keel hauled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 9 minutes ago, Captain Dread said: No, keel hauled My friends I stand before youTo tell a truth most direThere lurks a traitor in our midstWho hath invoked the captain's ireHe don't deserve no mercyWe ought to shoot him with a gunBut I am not an evil manSo first let's have a little funWe'll tie that scoundrel to a ropeAnd throw him overboardDrag him underneath the shipA terrifying deadly trip[CHORUS]Keelhaul, that filthy landlubberSend him down to the depths belowMake that b****** walk the plankwith a bottle of rum and a yo ho ho[/CHORUS](2x) I will not say what he has doneHis sins are far to grave to tellIt's not my place to judge a manBut for them he will burn in hellThe sharks will dine up on his fleshAnd Davy Jones will have his soulTake his money and his hatHe won't need them where he's gonna goBut first lets tie him to a ropeAnd throw him overboardDrag him underneath the shipA terrifying deadly trip[CHORUS](2x)We'll tie that scoundrel to a ropeAnd throw him overboardDrag him underneath the shipA terrifying deadly trip[CHORUS](2x) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuthound Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 35 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said: My friends I stand before youTo tell a truth most direThere lurks a traitor in our midstWho hath invoked the captain's ireHe don't deserve no mercyWe ought to shoot him with a gunBut I am not an evil manSo first let's have a little funWe'll tie that scoundrel to a ropeAnd throw him overboardDrag him underneath the shipA terrifying deadly trip[CHORUS]Keelhaul, that filthy landlubberSend him down to the depths belowMake that b****** walk the plankwith a bottle of rum and a yo ho ho[/CHORUS](2x) I will not say what he has doneHis sins are far to grave to tellIt's not my place to judge a manBut for them he will burn in hellThe sharks will dine up on his fleshAnd Davy Jones will have his soulTake his money and his hatHe won't need them where he's gonna goBut first lets tie him to a ropeAnd throw him overboardDrag him underneath the shipA terrifying deadly trip[CHORUS](2x)We'll tie that scoundrel to a ropeAnd throw him overboardDrag him underneath the shipA terrifying deadly trip[CHORUS](2x) You would have to get CRT to do a bit of dredging before you could keelhaul the filthy landlubber on a canal. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 Just now, cuthound said: You would have to get CRT to do a bit of dredging before you could keelhaul the filthy landlubber on a canal. ? Maybe he could just stand there whilst he had Zebra mussels dragged down his back ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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