Felshampo Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 What are the pros and cons for the length of a chimney on the stove in the boatmans cabin. I have a 28 inch one which works well on the stove in the saloon. I was thinking of buying a second one for the stove at the back. This would be used when we have visitors using the bed in the boatmans cabin and when cruising. Most boats seem to use long chimneys. What about the short ones (12") are they OK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 We have a stove at front and back.The one at the back has a shorter flue pipe than the one at front, and a shorter chimney too.It doesn't seem to make much difference to stove performance. We did go for a couple of years with no chimney at all, which again didn't seem to effect the stove performance, but obviously didn't aid with smoke removal as well as having a chimney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 If it’s going to be a cooler stove then you probably need more draw from a longer flue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felshampo Posted December 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, rusty69 said: We have a stove at front and back.The one at the back has a shorter flue pipe than the one at front, and a shorter chimney too.It doesn't seem to make much difference to stove performance. We did go for a couple of years with no chimney at all, which again didn't seem to effect the stove performance, but obviously didn't aid with smoke removal as well as having a chimney. Do you cruise with the fire going. Does it matter having a shorter chimney with smoke and the steerer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koukouvagia Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 (edited) Longer ones - Pros: aesthetically pleasing (IMO); smoke from fire not in your face. Con: you have to take long ones off at some low bridges Frankly, it doesn't matter which you chose. After all, the main purpose of a chimney is to warm the steerer's hands ?- therefore don't have a liner, just a baked bean tin in the top. Edited December 7, 2018 by koukouvagia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 Just now, Felshampo said: Do you cruise with the fire going. Does it matter having a shorter chimney with smoke and the steerer? We generally only light the one at the back when its very cold at night, so no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Felshampo said: Do you cruise with the fire going. Does it matter having a shorter chimney with smoke and the steerer? It doesn't matter to me if you have a short chimney and spend hours inhaling all the 'smoke nasties', but it may matter to 'you and yours' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nb Innisfree Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 To stop smoke curling down into one of the mushroom vents and registering on the CO alarm we replaced our short chimney with a double skinned 30" job, it cured the prob and the draw on our Villager Puffin was significantly better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felshampo Posted December 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 Sounds like a long single skin is the way to go. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEngo Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, koukouvagia said: therefore don't have a liner, just a baked bean tin in the top. If wishing the authentic trad look, not a beanz tin unless desperate. It should be a National Dried Milk tin. And in either type don't forget to remove the bottom of the tin? N Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koukouvagia Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 6 minutes ago, Felshampo said: Do you cruise with the fire going. Yes. In cold weather you stand on the back cabin step and the warmth from the fire is lovely and toasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 1 minute ago, BEngo said: If wishing the authentic trad look, not a beanz tin unless desperate. It should be a National Dried Milk tin. And in either type don't forget to remove the bottom of the tin? N That reminds me... when you took your cod liver oil capsule and accidentally bit it open... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felshampo Posted December 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 1 minute ago, koukouvagia said: Yes. In cold weather you stand on the back cabin step and the warmth from the fire is lovely and toasty. Not tried it yet but have wished I had on more than one occasion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koukouvagia Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, BEngo said: If wishing the authentic trad look, not a beanz tin unless desperate. It should be a National Dried Milk tin. And in either type don't forget to remove the bottom of the tin? N Agreed. I've just looked on ebay and seen that a genuine one costs a fortune. I'll stick with the baked bean tin eta: Ah, you can type faste than me - your picture shows the one I was looking at! Edited December 7, 2018 by koukouvagia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, BEngo said: If wishing the authentic trad look, not a beanz tin unless desperate. It should be a National Dried Milk tin. And in either type don't forget to remove the bottom of the tin? N 1 minute ago, koukouvagia said: Agreed. I've just looked on ebay and seen that a genuine one costs a fortune. I'll stick with the baked bean tin It's possible to have them over-plated apparently! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koukouvagia Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 Just now, alan_fincher said: It's possible to have them over-plated apparently! Brilliant. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 6 minutes ago, BEngo said: And in either type don't forget to remove the bottom of the tin In the same category as "Don't forget to remove the cap on the engine room exhaust before starting the engine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Harold Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 31 minutes ago, BEngo said: If wishing the authentic trad look, not a beanz tin unless desperate. It should be a National Dried Milk tin. And in either type don't forget to remove the bottom of the tin? N You're going back a lot of years with National Dried Milk! Do you remember the Romans leaving Britain too? Regarding chimneys,I have found the double skin better,in that the tar trickles back down. With a single skin,tar starts running down the cabin side and as well as looking unsightly,it is difficult to clean off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felshampo Posted December 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Mad Harold said: You're going back a lot of years with National Dried Milk! Do you remember the Romans leaving Britain too? Regarding chimneys,I have found the double skin better,in that the tar trickles back down. With a single skin,tar starts running down the cabin side and as well as looking unsightly,it is difficult to clean off. Can you still use it as a hand warmer ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Harold Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 13 minutes ago, Felshampo said: Can you still use it as a hand warmer ? Yes, it still gets warm,but I can't on my tub because the stove is halfway along the boat. It would involve leaving the tiller unattended [I always sail alone,nobody is daft enough to come with me] and scuttling along the gunwale and back! Not recommended! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X Alan W Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 1 hour ago, koukouvagia said: Longer ones - Pros: aesthetically pleasing (IMO); smoke from fire not in your face. Con: you have to take long ones off at some low bridges Frankly, it doesn't matter which you chose. After all, the main purpose of a chimney is to warm the steerer's hands ?- therefore don't have a liner, just a baked bean tin in the top. Long enough to keep the smoke out of your eyes when stood on the foot board or the regulation baby milk tin extension always used "ostamilk" brand 1 hour ago, alan_fincher said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felshampo Posted December 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 9 minutes ago, Mad Harold said: Yes, it still gets warm,but I can't on my tub because the stove is halfway along the boat. It would involve leaving the tiller unattended [I always sail alone,nobody is daft enough to come with me] and scuttling along the gunwale and back! Not recommended! No! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koukouvagia Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 2 hours ago, Mad Harold said: With a single skin,tar starts running down the cabin side and as well as looking unsightly,it is difficult to clean off. That's why you need a baked bean/dried milk tin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X Alan W Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, alan_fincher said: In the same category as "Don't forget to remove the cap on the engine room exhaust before starting the engine! Different ball game they are in most cases self removing & usually end up in the cut Edited December 7, 2018 by X Alan W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markinaboat Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 Whilst we're on the subject, found this on the new boat in the back cabin. Being the only one, presumably it's for the premier range. It has a lid but no means of holding the lid open. Just a split pin through the hinge that I'll need to remove. Have googled but not found this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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