Naughty Cal Posted November 25, 2018 Report Share Posted November 25, 2018 Our Engel 12v compressor fridge decided to give up the ghost yesterday. The compressor has seized. By the time we buy a new compressor and gave the fridge regassed we may as well buy a new fridge. The existing one is an Engel 47 litre. The new version details at around £600. Not cheap. So we are looking for alternatives. Any suggestions greatly recieved. It has to be 12v and it has to be a compressor fridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted November 25, 2018 Report Share Posted November 25, 2018 18 minutes ago, Naughty Cal said: Our Engel 12v compressor fridge decided to give up the ghost yesterday. The compressor has seized. By the time we buy a new compressor and gave the fridge regassed we may as well buy a new fridge. The existing one is an Engel 47 litre. The new version details at around £600. Not cheap. So we are looking for alternatives. Any suggestions greatly recieved. It has to be 12v and it has to be a compressor fridge. I'm very happy with my Waeco CR80 (about the same price) I shopped around and found it a bit cheaper and eventually got Midland Chandlers to price match, 'lose the VAT' and do free-delivery so it worked out a bargain. Waeco CR 80 manual.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Ambrose Posted November 25, 2018 Report Share Posted November 25, 2018 I was very happy with our Shoreline under counter larder fridge, 110litre capacity. Still going strong after 15+ years live aboard use. Shoreline do have a fair selection of sizes. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Cal Posted November 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2018 The Waeco 50 is one we are considering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard10002 Posted November 25, 2018 Report Share Posted November 25, 2018 I bought a Waeco a few years ago.mits got a freezer compartment which can be removed to make either the whole fridge bigger, or it can all be a freezer, (I think). It’s very good. I think it’s a bit smaller than a 50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted November 25, 2018 Report Share Posted November 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Naughty Cal said: The Waeco 50 is one we are considering. Whilst your fridge is out just look at the wire size. I found with the CR80 that it was running continuously and would only freeze with the engine running - I found the voltage drop was excessive (but had worked OK with the previous fridge) Replaced the cable with a larger CSA and never had any problem again. The CR50 is the 'same' internals as the CR80 just a smaller cabinet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Cal Posted November 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said: Whilst your fridge is out just look at the wire size. I found with the CR80 that it was running continuously and would only freeze with the engine running - I found the voltage drop was excessive (but had worked OK with the previous fridge) Replaced the cable with a larger CSA and never had any problem again. The CR50 is the 'same' internals as the CR80 just a smaller cabinet. We did check the voltage drop on the cable today whilst tinkering with the fridge to find out what was wrong. It is quite considerable so we will be upgrading the wiring as part of fitting the new fridge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted November 25, 2018 Report Share Posted November 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Naughty Cal said: We did check the voltage drop on the cable today whilst tinkering with the fridge to find out what was wrong. It is quite considerable so we will be upgrading the wiring as part of fitting the new fridge! The Waeco manual shows a graph of cable size vs distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard10002 Posted November 25, 2018 Report Share Posted November 25, 2018 41 minutes ago, Richard10002 said: I bought a Waeco a few years ago.mits got a freezer compartment which can be removed to make either the whole fridge bigger, or it can all be a freezer, (I think). It’s very good. I think it’s a bit smaller than a 50. Having seen the pics, mines the CRX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Cal Posted November 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2018 8 minutes ago, Richard10002 said: Having seen the pics, mines the CRX I think the CRX is the only one you can get now. Looks like this is the leading contender at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 What about a nice Frigoboat like http://www.penguinfrigo.co.uk/shop/product/351/ms42in-stainless-fridge-cabinet-with-hidden-evaporator/, okay it’s a little more expensive than others but it nice and shiney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebotco Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 2 hours ago, Robbo said: What about a nice Frigoboat like http://www.penguinfrigo.co.uk/shop/product/351/ms42in-stainless-fridge-cabinet-with-hidden-evaporator/, okay it’s a little more expensive than others but it nice and shiney. You must be joking!!!!! Nearly £2000 just for an insulated box! Compressor another £600 Installation, probably around £500 = over £3K for a tiny fridge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, Rebotco said: = over £3K for a tiny fridge! But it's shiney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Cal Posted November 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 Erm.....I think we will give that one a miss! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, Naughty Cal said: Erm.....I think we will give that one a miss! Not sure where Rebotco got the 3K from as it's around £1900 and presume you have the skills to put a fridge in yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacka Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, Robbo said: Not sure where Rebotco got the 3K from as it's around £1900 and presume you have the skills to put a fridge in yourself. Maybe the £3k was because it’s very small so you will need two. One for keeping wine and beer at cellar temp in the summer, the other for food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Chewbacka said: Maybe the £3k was because it’s very small so you will need two. One for keeping wine and beer at cellar temp in the summer, the other for food. It was similar size to what NC wanted. Not sure where gets £500 to install. Edited November 26, 2018 by Robbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 (edited) These are worth a look. http://www.frigonautica.it/en/products/vertical-refrigerators-and-freezers/ Again not the cheapest but excellent quality (We had one on the Dog House). The freezer was the same make too) Available in a wide range of sizes. If you have the room the compressor can be externally mounted too, as it was on our boat, meaning higher fridge capacity. Edited November 26, 2018 by MJG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacka Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, Robbo said: It was similar size to what NC wanted. Not sure where gets £500 to install. If she only needs one, where does she keep the food?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Chewbacka said: If she only needs one, where does she keep the food?? Chip shop 3 minutes ago, MJG said: These are worth a look. http://www.frigonautica.it/en/products/vertical-refrigerators-and-freezers/ Again not the cheapest but excellent quality (We had one on the Dog House). The freezer was the same make too) Available in a wide range of sizes. If you have the room the compressor can be externally mounted too, as it was on our boat, meaning higher fridge capacity. That’s the one I linked too. They shiney... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, Robbo said: Chip shop That’s the one I linked too. They shiney... Are Frigoboat and Frigonautica the same?? Similar name at least. Yes they are shiny and expensive but as the saying goes you get what you pay for (Sometimes!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, MJG said: Are Frigoboat and Frigonautica the same?? Similar name at least. Not sure now, but I thought they were, they very similar if not, they look to have the same options and style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Cal Posted November 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2018 23 hours ago, Chewbacka said: If she only needs one, where does she keep the food?? We have managed for the last ten years with that size!! Bottom two shelves for beer and the top shelf for food. Freezer for fast chilling a couple of cans. And you can always slide a package of bacon in somewhere. Mind you shopping at a proper butchers helps as you don't end up with a fridge full of pointless plastic packaging. Think we are settled on the Waeco fridge but we do need to find a way of attaching the fridge door to the moulding in the cockpit that covers the fridge. With the Engel there was a hole in the top of the door that a pin slotted through so that we only had to open the one door not the two to get into the fridge. Doesn't look so easy with how the Waeco door operates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koukouvagia Posted November 27, 2018 Report Share Posted November 27, 2018 On 25/11/2018 at 17:03, Naughty Cal said: The Waeco 50 is one we are considering. We fitted the CRX80 model when the older Waeco gave up the ghost. This seems very energy efficient and comes with a removable freezer compartment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Cal Posted December 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 Finally decided to go with the Waeco. Ordered it this lunchtime and on its way already. Got the price to £519 and the mounting frame to £21 so not as bad as we had expected but still pricey for a little fridge. On the plus side the power consumption is much lower than the Engel it will replace and the compressor is alleged to be very quiet which will be a bonus if true as the fridge is close to the bed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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