Phil Ambrose Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 Just read the new rules and am frightened to post Phil 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howardang Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 8 minutes ago, Phil Ambrose said: Just read the new rules and am frightened to post Phil I was asked to read them this morning; I am glad someone else seems to ave been sent them. Has something happened to trigger this? Howard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan(nb Albert) Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 9 minutes ago, howardang said: I was asked to read them this morning; I am glad someone else seems to ave been sent them. Has something happened to trigger this? Howard yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Ambrose Posted November 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 23 minutes ago, Allan(nb Albert) said: yes What? Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan(nb Albert) Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 9 minutes ago, Phil Ambrose said: What? Phil Not telling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Ambrose Posted November 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 6 hours ago, Allan(nb Albert) said: Not telling. You meanie Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Phil Ambrose said: You meanie Phil The Brexit thread was due to be closed down due to its size, and a new thread would be opened to 'start again' The last few hours got a little bit 'silly' with posters (2 or 3 already 'on a warning' in particular) getting a bit obnoxious and personal. The thread was then closed. Edited November 22, 2018 by Alan de Enfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Nibble Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 20 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said: The Brexit thread was due to be closed down due to its size, and a new thread would be opened to 'start again' The last few hours got a little bit 'silly' with posters (2 or 3 already 'on a warning' in particular) getting a bit obnoxious and personal. The thread was then closed. One in particular who seems to consider disagreement to be an offensive insubordination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 (edited) The Brexit reloaded thread didn't last long either. The Brexit thread is under review. Edited November 22, 2018 by rusty69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Vectis Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 A bit like the topic itself then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 12 minutes ago, rusty69 said: The Brexit reloaded thread didn't last long either. Was it ever intended to ? I thought it was a 'disposable' thread, (a bit like the Japanese Kamikaze aircraft) just designed to have a very short lifespan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 Just now, Alan de Enfield said: Was it ever intended to ? I thought it was a 'disposable' thread, (a bit like the Japanese Kamikaze aircraft) just designed to have a very short lifespan. Half an hour iirc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murflynn Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 wot new rools?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howardang Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Murflynn said: wot new rools?? I think they must be the rules that say that politics are not a subject for discussion on this forum, (but we still had one of the longest threads in recent CDF history before it was closed!? Howard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, howardang said: I think they must be the rules that say that politics are not a subject for discussion on this forum, (but we still had one of the longest threads in recent CDF history before it was closed!? Howard But that is not a new rule. It is a rule that has been in place for two or three years and widely ignored with the blessing of Dan and the mid team. The inconsistency is bewildering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Mike the Boilerman said: But that is not a new rule. It is a rule that has been in place for two or three years and widely ignored with the blessing of Dan and the mid team. The inconsistency is bewildering. You still here? I thought you were banned last night! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 Until yesterday multiple political threads have been started and allowed to stand. Then last night I start a spoof one and get awarded my second unfair warning point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 1 minute ago, rusty69 said: You still here? I thought you were banned last night! No not banned. I posted last night what happened. A second warning point. On the third, one gets banned. If I get banned for posting my annoyance at getting warning points (also an offence) i will be feel VERY unfairly treated as my first warning point was not for a rule infringement and my second was for breaking a rule that was being broken on a daily basis with the approval of Team Mod. Anyway back on topic, has anyone been able to divine any difference between the ‘new’ rules and those in force a week ago? The new rules look identical to me going from memory of what the old rules said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Todd Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 I know nothing about this particular spat as I don't inhabit the Virtual Pub (I assume that is where the 'fight' took place) but for the first time (!) I have actually read the full Rules. Moderation of anything like this is never easy - nor is it in any context as the hardest thing is what to do with minor infractions. At the time it seems heavy handed to enforce them but when it is clear that they have led to something bigger it can be too late to put the genie back in the bottle. For example, "A single link to a personal and non-commercial website, such as a blog or personal site, is allowed in a members signature" sounds innocuous but at least one member regularly breaks this rule and it seems that more than two such links is permissible. Now that is no big deal but what if someone starts to increase their link count over time until it contains more lines than any sensible post? How can the rule be used to restrict this without seeming to be heavy-handed? As I said, site moderation is a difficult task - even if moderation in all things is a 'good idea'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac of Cygnet Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 Those of us who gave up on the Brexit thread yonks ago nevertheless feel bereft. It was a constant in the ever-changing world of View New Content, even appearing in trplicate or more on occasion. Perhaps self-replication is against the rules? I sometimes looked to see if it had overtaken the word game thingy, which also seems to have died, but I think that was just old age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 10 hours ago, Phil Ambrose said: Just read the new rules and am frightened to post Phil You obviously didn't read the old rules then, as they were the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 49 minutes ago, howardang said: I think they must be the rules that say that politics are not a subject for discussion on this forum, (but we still had one of the longest threads in recent CDF history before it was closed!? Howard 44 minutes ago, Mike the Boilerman said: But that is not a new rule. It is a rule that has been in place for two or three years and widely ignored with the blessing of Dan and the mid team. The inconsistency is bewildering. Actually what the rules now say is...... Quote Posting any material, anywhere on the site, that is deemed to have a primarily political theme that is not strictly related to inland waterways and/or boating is prohibited. In addition, content containing a religious theme, or content that makes commentary on religious issues, is not permitted. Exceptions to this rule may be made in special circumstances with prior approval of the Site Administration. Did they always include the last bit, I cant remember. It seems an almighty fudge to me, and who the **** defines "special circumstances? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Mike Todd said: As I said, site moderation is a difficult task - even if moderation in all things is a 'good idea'. I agree, but the mods make things so much more difficult for themselves by having rules which for months they chose not to enforce, then one day they enforce them out of the blue. The 'no politics' rule specifically. 8 minutes ago, alan_fincher said: Actually what the rules now say is...... Did they always include the last bit, I cant remember. It seems an almighty fudge to me, and who the **** defines "special circumstances? Aha good spot!!!! I predict nothing will change. People will still start political threads and they will be left running, but with Team Mod citing 'special circumstances' if we report such threads asking for them to be taken down. On the other hand, if Team Mod doesn't like one of the new politcal threads started almost daily, even a spoof political thread started in jest, a Warning Point will be issued against whoever started it. Go on, ask me how I know! Edited November 22, 2018 by Mike the Boilerman Add a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Nibble Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 There is no problems with discussion of politics per se, the problem comes about from a few members possessed of a superior intellect who come along with an attitude like they are laying down the law to children and other opinions constitute answering back. Point and counterpoint is debate, point and derision is not. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 12 minutes ago, Mike the Boilerman said: Go on, ask me how I know! But, how do you know this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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