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6 minutes ago, Pie Eater said:

 

There is an interesting story in the Manchester Evening News about a new house boat that has been told to leave the New Islington marina as it does not meet the criteria of a boat

 

Can anyone provide a link please.

 

Google is your friend

 

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https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/inside-80000-house-boat-thats-15426220

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3 minutes ago, mrsmelly said:

A bit like an old butty then?

Not really

Its twice as high for a start, square, with feather-lap boarded sides.

Its a garden shed on pontoons.

 

"Despite it not being completely finished, he says he will eventually spend around £80,000 on the 'houseboat' which is the same width as a traditional narrow boat and he says only a couple of metres taller."

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1 minute ago, Robbo said:

It can join this one, they originally found it hard to find moorings due to it not been a boat looking boat.

 

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Is that the piece of crap the idiot bloke ranted about o that grand designs crap?

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2 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:

Wasn't that the subject of one of the 'small homes' programmes ?

Ended up abandoned and drifted onto the beach to be allowed to just break-up.

It was on grand designs, and yes ended up drifting into a beach.

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To be honest this one in Manchester looks like a houseboat, if he said he was building a house boat then these dimensions and style is what I would have expected (just googling houseboat comes up with very similar styles).  So BWML and the council been a bit shit if that’s what he said he was planning.   If he said canal boat, then it doesn’t look like any canal boat.

 

It just goes to show there is no security in marinas even residential and we (as boaters) should see all marinas as just temporary cause you can be kicked out at any time for any made up excuse.

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2 minutes ago, J R ALSOP said:

Stick it on the main line and then see what happens.

I think part of the issue is that this could not go out onto the canal so will be a permanent feature of the marina, or structure within the marina. A tall box obviously maximises the living space available within a limited "footprint". If its just one boat then its maybe an interesting feature but because its a good use of space what if others copy this design? Maybe the owner is even actually hoping to make a lot more of these. The concept of going to the marina to look at the boats and see some water would be lost if the the whole place was full of end to end tall boxes.  Something like this could just as easily sit on a bit of land rather than taking up a precious bit of water.

 

Its the usual dilemma that the canals face again and again, its fine to have a couple of continuous moorers, or a few tall waterside apartments....but once you allow one its a lot harder to stop them multiplying.

 

..............Dave

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1 minute ago, dmr said:

I think part of the issue is that this could not go out onto the canal so will be a permanent feature of the marina

Must have got into the marina somehow, if it was craned in then the marina must have given permission.

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1 minute ago, Robbo said:

Must have got into the marina somehow, if it was craned in then the marina must have given permission.

Have you read the article?
To paraphrase, he built all the superstructure IN the marina.
They did NOT give permission for a structure like this.

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2 hours ago, Alan de Enfield said:

"Despite it not being completely finished, he says he will eventually spend around £80,000 on the 'houseboat' which is the same width as a traditional narrow boat and he says only a couple of metres taller."

 

Either the photos are using a very odd lens or its much wider than a narrowboat ("traditional" or not)

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12 minutes ago, Robbo said:

Must have got into the marina somehow, if it was craned in then the marina must have given permission.

err, I don't think that is clarified in the report :

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"Mr Sharratt brought the structure to the marina in August this year without providing this information. It doesn't even have an engine and had to be craned in because it is too large to navigate the local waterways."

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8 minutes ago, Robbo said:

Must have got into the marina somehow, if it was craned in then the marina must have given permission.

New Islington is not a typical marina, its more like a small inner city residential community set in a park and housing estate. There is no on site office as such. Probably quite easy to ask to get a boat craned in and deliver this instead.

 

.............Dave

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9 minutes ago, Graham Davis said:

Have you read the article?
To paraphrase, he built all the superstructure IN the marina.
They did NOT give permission for a structure like this.

Yes I’ve read it, it says it took 6 months to build so far and brought into the marina in August.

2 minutes ago, dmr said:

New Islington is not a typical marina, its more like a small inner city residential community set in a park and housing estate. There is no on site office as such. Probably quite easy to ask to get a boat craned in and deliver this instead.

 

.............Dave

Could it be moved into the marina by water, and craned in on non marina owned land?

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29 minutes ago, Robbo said:

Could it be moved into the marina by water, and craned in on non marina owned land?

 

Not sure if it could get into the marina by water, there are  bridges at the entrance that might be too low. Its actually at the far end of the marina separated from a road by just a fence so could easily be craned in over the fence within bringing a crane into the marina, if fact I suspect this is where it was craned in. New Islington is a pretty unique place so unless you actually visit its quite hard to get an idea of what its all about. Its surrounded by an increasing amount of trendy high rise housing, some of which some people might find a bit ugly, so one argument is "if were are surrounded by ugly housing why can't we have an ugly boats too!

 

...............Dave

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