Unlimited Power - Breakthrough

[Alan de Enfield]

1 minute ago, Tumshie said:

China are working very hard to give the impression that they are very environmentally friendly ?

By building coal fired power stations ?

[Tumshie]

1 minute ago, Alan de Enfield said:

By building coal fired power stations ?

no ?

[Alan de Enfield]

Just now, Tumshie said:

no ?

China accounts for about half of the world's total coal consumption. ...

United States is the second biggest coal consuming country. ...

India is the world's third biggest coal consumer.

[MtB]

5 minutes ago, peterboat said:

Really read this and then realise that the EU is light years behind them! Its only because of the UKs love affair with wind turbines that put us in the running https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrEeGGVePBbwGoAKDonnIlQ;_ylu=X3oDMTByOHZyb21tBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzcg--/RV=2/RE=1542514966/RO=10/RU=https%3a%2f%2fwww.e3g.org%2flibrary%2fchina-accelerates-while-europe-deliberates-on-the-clean-energy-transition/RK=2/RS=oaPlihHc1U.7IGtHWB61fVvHWyA-

 

A quick scan of that link gives no statistics about what proportion of its power China currently generates from fossil fuels. 

 

I wonder why not, but I can make an educated guess. All it talks about is future investment plans. Talk is cheap, as someone once said. 

[Tumshie]

1 minute ago, Alan de Enfield said:

China accounts for about half of the world's total coal consumption. ...

It also invests very heavily in coal use in other countries so no china is not at all very friendly to the environment but it also likes big showy gestures that would suggest that it is. I was being flippant but obviously not very well. 

[LadyG]

 

Edited November 17, 2018 by LadyG
i think MtB will like this, I don't

[bizzard]

It can't be very hot, that blokes got his overcoat on.

[Alan de Enfield]

35 minutes ago, Mike the Boilerman said:

 

A quick scan of that link gives no statistics about what proportion of its power China currently generates from fossil fuels. 

 

I wonder why not, but I can make an educated guess. All it talks about is future investment plans. Talk is cheap, as someone once said. 

See Post #28

 

 

Chinese production and consumption of coal increased for the 13th consecutive year in 2012. China is by far the world's largest producer and consumer of coal, accounting for 46% of global coal production and 49% of global coal consumption—almost as much as the rest of the world combined. As a manufacturing country that has large electric power requirements, China's coal consumption fuels its economic growth. China's gross domestic product (GDP) grew 7.7% in 2012, following an average GDP growth rate of 10% per year from 2000 to 2011.

The top 10 coal-producing countries supplied 90% of the world's coal in 2012. China produced nearly four times as much coal as the second largest producer, the United States, which had a 12% share of global production. China has accounted for 69% of the 3.2 billion ton increase in global coal production over the past 10 years.

The top 10 coal-consuming countries consumed 85% of the world's coal in 2012. Eight of the 10 largest producers are among the top 10 consumers. China is the largest coal consumer, accounting for 49% of the world's total coal. The next largest, the United States, consumed 11% of the world's total. China's coal consumption increased by more than 2.3 billion tons over the past 10 years, accounting for 83% of the global increase in coal consumption.

Coal accounts for most of China's energy consumption, and coal has maintained an approximate 70% share of Chinese consumption (on a Btu basis) since at least 1980, the starting date for EIA's global coal data. By way of comparison, coal was 18% of U.S. energy use and 28% of global energy use in 2012.

[MtB]

1 minute ago, Alan de Enfield said:

See Post #28

 

 

Chinese production and consumption of coal increased for the 13th consecutive year in 2012. China is by far the world's largest producer and consumer of coal, accounting for 46% of global coal production and 49% of global coal consumption—almost as much as the rest of the world combined. As a manufacturing country that has large electric power requirements, China's coal consumption fuels its economic growth. China's gross domestic product (GDP) grew 7.7% in 2012, following an average GDP growth rate of 10% per year from 2000 to 2011.

The top 10 coal-producing countries supplied 90% of the world's coal in 2012. China produced nearly four times as much coal as the second largest producer, the United States, which had a 12% share of global production. China has accounted for 69% of the 3.2 billion ton increase in global coal production over the past 10 years.

The top 10 coal-consuming countries consumed 85% of the world's coal in 2012. Eight of the 10 largest producers are among the top 10 consumers. China is the largest coal consumer, accounting for 49% of the world's total coal. The next largest, the United States, consumed 11% of the world's total. China's coal consumption increased by more than 2.3 billion tons over the past 10 years, accounting for 83% of the global increase in coal consumption.

Coal accounts for most of China's energy consumption, and coal has maintained an approximate 70% share of Chinese consumption (on a Btu basis) since at least 1980, the starting date for EIA's global coal data. By way of comparison, coal was 18% of U.S. energy use and 28% of global energy use in 2012.

 

I can see why their coal consumption is rising so fast. 

 

All those electric cars they are making!

 

[peterboat]

And germany is doing so well isnt it closing its nuclear power stations and opening brown coal powered stations, so it seems talk is cheap over there as well isnt it? Where as here we are doing something about it and China is defo producing the goods.

[TheBiscuits]

On 17/11/2018 at 13:17, RLWP said:

Can't be long, surely:

 

On 17/11/2018 at 18:46, matty40s said:

Its a single pot, but bet it doesnt sound as good as a Bolinder...

 

Whooosh!

 

Oh hang on, you could have a point!