haggis Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 I have no objection to tents being referred to as X man tents. I was however, very disappointed several years ago when I bought a two man tent and found there were no men inside. haggis 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, nicknorman said: ..and of course the important point to pick out of David’s rant is that when he says “Very few people these days use outdated, offensive words to describe people of different races, so why do they find it difficult to employ the same degree of consideration towards women” misses the point by a mile. There has never been anything derogatory about the word “manhole”. It is just a word to describe an inanimate object. It is therefore NOT an offensive word to 99% of the population 50% of whom are female. Of course, any nutter can say they find a random word offensive but that doesn’t mean it should be pandered to. That is outrageous. Edited November 4, 2018 by rusty69 Thoughts of a random nutter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmelly Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 43 minutes ago, nicknorman said: It is nothing to do with showing consideration to women. It is about using words that have been around for centuries, in the usual way and not pandering to a tiny minority of silly insecure people (usually of the female gender) who want to make a fuss. They don’t really care what the fuss is about, they just want to make a fuss, although preferably about how hard done by they are due to a group of letters. It’s pathetic. if you ask 1000 women whether they object to the term “manhole cover”, I’d say 900 of them wouldn’t care, 90 wouldn’t know what a manhole cover is but the remaining 10 would make more noise about how they were OUTRAGED and GROSSLY OFFENDED by it, than the other 990 put together. Its about time people realised that the “man” in, eg manhole, refers to human. Or are we going to have to stop using “human” and replace it with “hupersonofnonspecificgender”. I blame you and your employer for encouraging this first world problem which takes up far too much air time, whilst actual problems are ignored. So there. So very right. My old mum says of the so called modern woman that they are " silly " she always liked the fact that men always showed consideration and opened doors for and doffed their cap to her in the past. She is far from impressed with silly womens lib and would be amazed by anyone daft enough to pretend to be offended like a few do today. Thing is in her time there was enough serious stuff to be concerned about so trivia like " Manhole " covers simply would never have been brought up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicknorman Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 Just now, rusty69 said: That is outrageous. Don’t you mean “GROSSLY OFFENSIVE”? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyG Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, rusty69 said: That is outrageous. But not grossly offensive? Edited November 4, 2018 by LadyG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 Outrageously offensive, perhaps?? Offensively outrageous? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderer Vagabond Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 minute ago, nicknorman said: ..and of course the important point to pick out of David’s rant is that when he says “Very few people these days use outdated, offensive words to describe people of different races, so why do they find it difficult to employ the same degree of consideration towards women” misses the point by a mile. There has never been anything derogatory about the word “manhole”. It is just a word to describe an inanimate object. It is therefore NOT and offensive word to 99% of the population 50% of whom are human. Of course, any nutter can say they find a random word offensive but that doesn’t mean it should be pandered to. I find it amazing how a simple enquiry about Fabsil becomes bogged down in utter crap about 'Political Correctness'. There was no real purpose to the original comment made,"... i used this product on our 8 man tent (8 persons tent) for wishy washy pc peeps) ..." other than to score some insignificant point somewhere or other. Had one of the so-called 'PC Peeps' posted a mirror image of the same comment as in," I used this product on our 8 person tent ( not 8 'man' tent to you Neanderthals)" they would be rightly ridiculed, so we should be equally free to ridicule the original comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 ....I'm amazed what an outrageously offensive ridiculous comment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 minute ago, rusty69 said: ....I'm amazed what an outrageously offensive ridiculous comment! No you're not!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Mike the Boilerman said: No you're not!! Hey, don't tell me if I'm amazed, outraged or indeed fauxoutraged......that's outrageous and offensive! Edited November 4, 2018 by rusty69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyG Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 I'm not getting involved in this nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, rusty69 said: Hey, don't tell me if I'm amazed, outraged or indeed fauxoutraged......that's outrageous and offensive! ................................ no it isn't 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, LadyG said: I'm not getting involved in this nonsense. Are you unimpressed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Bob Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 I pressed a button to delete it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bro Posted November 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 Some excellent ranting hereabouts. On PC matters, my view is (and I make no apologies) there are far too many people looking to find offence where non is really intended. Such folk generally take themselves too seriously and have a lack of humour ................................... but that's their problem not mine. Getting back to the topic (sorry), has anyone tried Nikwax 'Cotton proof'? It's supposedly has no silicone content, is applied with water and according to the blurb is suitable for canvas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nut Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 5 hours ago, David Schweizer said: The technical observations about the product are clearly vet helpful, so why did you feel the need to make such an uneccessary comment? incase any snowflakes, gay,lesbian,transgengers,black,chinese,north koreans, watford supporters felt left out and oh yes those snowflakes who think teapots should be labeled bevarge containers. thats why next question please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 6 hours ago, rusty69 said: That is outrageous. I’m most satisfied that you are outraged. It shows that the forum is getting back to normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 minute ago, WotEver said: I’m most satisfied that you are outraged. It shows that the forum is getting back to normal. I'm unimpressed that you are satisfied with my outrage, and i have taken offence that you suggest i am contributing to normality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Bob Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 24 minutes ago, rusty69 said: I'm unimpressed that you are satisfied with my outrage, and i have taken offence that you suggest i am contributing to normality. You've not got a bet on how long this thread will last as well have you? Coral have got it at 10/1 for 3 days at the moment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 hour ago, rusty69 said: I'm unimpressed that you are satisfied with my outrage, and i have taken offence that you suggest i am contributing to normality. I think that’s outrageous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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