Part No for Vetus fuel filter replacement cartridge

[Boating biker]

Hoping someone can help with this,

it is Vetus filter fitted between tank and the engine fuel filter (Fram 4178A) on a Isuzu 38 in a 2004 Liverpool boat.

I’m assuming it is a replacement cartridge and not a throw away canister type filter !?!

It has been suggested that Baldwin Filters could be a possible replacement but no number given !

Thanks in anticipation 

bb

[Mac of Cygnet]

Is this what you're looking for? https://www.inlinefilters.co.uk/Filters-Fuel/SpinOn/3-4.16UN/FFR-P4178  If you look through the equivalents you'll find Fram P4178A.  However this is a spin-on filter, not usually used between tank and engine fuel filter.

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2 minutes ago, Mac of Cygnet said:

Is this what you're looking for? https://www.inlinefilters.co.uk/Filters-Fuel/SpinOn/3-4.16UN/FFR-P4178  If you look through the equivalents you'll find Fram P4178A.  However this is a spin-on filter, not usually used between tank and engine fuel filter.

They're showing a Baldwin spin on filter BF 954 as the FRAM 4178A  equivalent.

[Boating biker]

Sorry guys the P4178A is on the engine and is a spin on.

This is a Vetus housing fastened on the engine bay between the fuel tank and the P4178A 

it is fitted with a drain.

thanks for your replies

[Mac of Cygnet]

Well this is the one which i use between tank and (Vetus) engine. https://www.inlinefilters.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=918_1009_1010&products_id=563458 

Perhaps that's what you want.  It's the cheapest thing in the engine bay!

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11 minutes ago, Boating biker said:

Sorry guys the P4178A is on the engine and is a spin on.

This is a Vetus housing fastened on the engine bay between the fuel tank and the P4178A 

it is fitted with a drain.

thanks for your replies

Without a number or even a picture its difficult.  The Baldwin  BF 825 is a popular filter for that application if its a two part unit with that filter sandwiched between two castings with a drain plug underneath. Check out the picture of one on the In-Line filters website.

4 minutes ago, Mac of Cygnet said:

Well this is the one which i use between tank and (Vetus) engine. https://www.inlinefilters.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=918_1009_1010&products_id=563458 

Perhaps that's what you want.  It's the cheapest thing in the engine bay!

Thats the kiddy a very popu;lar one and an equivalent should be available from any motor factors known as a 296

[dor]

The one mounted on the side of the engine is 

Engine-mounted Fuel FILTER-Fuel(Spin On) (FBW-BF1257)

From Baldwins.

[Boating biker]

Hi on Monday

Sorry guys the P4178A is on the engine and is a spin on.

This is a Vetus housing fastened on the engine bay between the fuel tank and the P4178A 

it is fitted with a drain.

thanks for your replies

[Boating biker]

Hello again, update ! The Vetus fuel filter positioned on the engine bay turned out to be a spin on/off canister with metal bolt drain, part No KC44/1

The Fram cross reference was Fram P4183. This has a plastic drain and an additional rubber collar !?! I will swop drain for metal and will need to remove the rubber collar. 

Thanks again to all those who took the time to help ?

[Guest]

11 hours ago, Boating biker said:

Hello again, update ! The Vetus fuel filter positioned on the engine bay turned out to be a spin on/off canister with metal bolt drain, part No KC44/1

The Fram cross reference was Fram P4183. This has a plastic drain and an additional rubber collar !?! I will swop drain for metal and will need to remove the rubber collar. 

Thanks again to all those who took the time to help ?

Sounds like the one on our boat (kc44/1) which takes a vetus ws180 filter, for which you will pay. I get mine (and other filters) from here (usually Baldwin), all legal drain taps and great guy to deal with: 
http://www.filtermania.co.uk/index.php/how-to-order/

This is the one I use from the same company's ebay site:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VETUS-FUEL-FILTER-WS180FE-EQUIVELENT-WITH-METAL-DRAIN/191904983788

Even with post that is around half the price of the OEM.

Edited September 27, 2018 by Guest

[Boating biker]

14 hours ago, catweasel said:

Sounds like the one on our boat (kc44/1) which takes a vetus ws180 filter, for which you will pay. I get mine (and other filters) from here (usually Baldwin), all legal drain taps and great guy to deal with: 
http://www.filtermania.co.uk/index.php/how-to-order/

This is the one I use from the same company's ebay site:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VETUS-FUEL-FILTER-WS180FE-EQUIVELENT-WITH-METAL-DRAIN/191904983788

Even with post that is around half the price of the OEM.

Hi Catweasel and thanks for your reply, only just found it, that was the info I was seeking but today I have taken a different route after I found the 8mm metal drain bolt from the Vetus KC44/1 will not secure in the Fram (it’s a plastic thread in the base?) bought @ £6.30 ! I have ordered an Aquafax through a chandler @ £28.50 Plus replacement filters & £4.00 and will toss the Vetus ! 

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9 hours ago, Boating biker said:

Hi Catweasel and thanks for your reply, only just found it, that was the info I was seeking but today I have taken a different route after I found the 8mm metal drain bolt from the Vetus KC44/1 will not secure in the Fram (it’s a plastic thread in the base?) bought @ £6.30 ! I have ordered an Aquafax through a chandler @ £28.50 Plus replacement filters & £4.00 and will toss the Vetus ! 

Glad you got sorted. I know a few who have done similar as it was cheaper. I considered it myself until I found a source of filters. at a better price.  
A bit like my buying a new laser printer as it was cheaper than buying a toner cartridge for the existing one!

Edited September 28, 2018 by Guest

[blackrose]

Is it the vetus water separator/sediment trap? A lot of Liverpool boat owners and others got rid of them completely because replacement elements are so expensive. I replaced mine with a cav/delphi model. Cost about 35 quid initially but then the elements are less than a fiver a pop. I think the elements are CAV 296. If anyone wants to do it you need the model with the metal bowl (not glass) and I think i had to replace the plastic drain screw with a metal one. 

 

Plenty on ebay I think

Edited September 29, 2018 by blackrose

[Boater Sam]

Many of the CAV ones take a 5/16" UNC drain bolt - not metric. They used to be supplied with a plastic wing bolt and rubber washer.

Edited September 29, 2018 by Boater Sam
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[Boating biker]

2 hours ago, blackrose said:

Is it the vetus water separator/sediment trap? A lot of Liverpool boat owners and others got rid of them completely because replacement elements are so expensive. I replaced mine with a cav/delphi model. Cost about 35 quid initially but then the elements are less than a fiver a pop. I think the elements are CAV 296. If anyone wants to do it you need the model with the metal bowl (not glass) and I think i had to replace the plastic drain screw with a metal one. 

 

Plenty on ebay I think

 

39 minutes ago, Boater Sam said:

Many of the CAV ones take a 5/16" UNC drain bolt - not metric. They used to be supplied with a plastic wing bolt and rubber washer.

Thanks for your replies, the info will be helpful to others. Yes that’s the one that was on my Liverpool boat ! I have now swopped from the Vetus to an aquafax and going to save a fortune over time ?

Edited September 29, 2018 by Boating biker
Added more info