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Marina/Mooring Review forum - good idea?


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Would you like to see a Mooring & Marina review forum?  

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  1. 1. Would you like to see a Mooring & Marina review forum?

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On 09/09/2018 at 16:37, Alan de Enfield said:

 

 

What would be of more use would be a directory of marinas / moorings showing contact details, facilities and costs (this is done annually for 'lumpy-water' marinas by region around the coast).

 

 

I think that a booklet doing exactly that has arrived with the new edition of Waterways World, though I have not yet read it.

I can't grasp why a completely new forum, rather than a sub-section of this one, has been proposed.

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2 hours ago, Athy said:

I can't grasp why a completely new forum, rather than a sub-section of this one, has been proposed.

 

I too was wondering that. 

 

I suspect what is really being proposed is a section here for discussion of moorings and marinas, just as there are sections for discussing other specific matters e.g. equipment, history, vintage engines, stoppages etc.

 

I really can't see why discussions about moorings and marinas that take place now in general boating would be much different if gathered together in a "Mooring and Marinas" section. 

 

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9 minutes ago, Mike the Boilerman said:

 

 

 

I really can't see why discussions about moorings and marinas that take place now in general boating would be much different if gathered together in a "Mooring and Marinas" section. 

 

However much you give 'em, they always want moor.

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For us, as CC'ers and popping into different marinas several times a year, think feedback would be great. Some marinas are very accommodating, but one we went too wouldn't allow a Tesco delivery, or allow us to receive Christmas presents. They've all got good/bad points. 

 

Perhaps after a certain time, say one year, the forum's software automatically deletes comments to keep information fresh.  As for the legal side of things, perhaps a clause could be added, making it clear posts do not reflect the views of the management!

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On 09/09/2018 at 20:13, RichM said:

it could be prevented by setting out certain rules/criteria, being constructive could be one of those.

That reminds me of the standing instructions when a teacher writes a school report -- nothing negative is allowed (eg "he is a lazy, insolent little shit"), so the report ends up providing very little actual information.

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8 minutes ago, Machpoint005 said:

That reminds me of the standing instructions when a teacher writes a school report -- nothing negative is allowed.

Since when? I have seen plenty of negative comments, though perhaps couched in milder terms!

Your comment does, however, whisk me back to my Scripture report when I was in the first form at King Ted's in Sheffield. The teacher wrote "He works in a highly individualistic manner, and at his own pace". My Dad, a schoolmaster himself, read it and said to me "You're slow and awkward, then".

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11 minutes ago, Athy said:

Since when? I have seen plenty of negative comments, though perhaps couched in milder terms!

Your comment does, however, whisk me back to my Scripture report when I was in the first form at King Ted's in Sheffield. The teacher wrote "He works in a highly individualistic manner, and at his own pace". My Dad, a schoolmaster himself, read it and said to me "You're slow and awkward, then".

I can't speak for the private sector, Mike, our children were all educated in state schools (and so was I)!

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Here's another idea.  When anyone receives proper sound advice from a forum member about whatever their problem is and its proved that the advice has solved-fixed the problem without them having to pay for expensive professional help.The receiver of said advice could make a donation to the forums coffers, WITHOUT FAIL.  Or forced to donate by extreme brutality if necessary, or have effiges made of the mean bu..gers and have pins stuck in it to make them squirm all night long, Tony Brooks could be put in charge of that.  A scale of charges could be drawn up like so....... Correct Electrical advice £2 per success.  Engines and transmissions likewise.   Carpentry £2. Painting and rust £1.  Stoves and flu pipes and chimney's £1.2p.  Advice on historical boats 7/6p.  Anything to do with stinkin bogs, £198.05p.  First aid advice, 50p,  Pets, 40p.  Sundry problems 50p. a go. All proceeds could be split so everyones happy, 60% to CWDF and 40% to the advice provider. Anyone who fails to cough up or doesn't respond and thank the advicee-consultant or pretends they didn't ask for advice in the first place,'gets kicked off the forum pronto. Women and pets get a 2% discount if they're nice.  Howssat then.  Looking forward to getting rich folks?,:unsure: lovely Jubbly. :), Someone would need be to be appointed as judge to judge each case, who's decision is final, and is able to administer any punishments required, brutal, expulsion or otherwise..

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2 hours ago, bizzard said:

Here's another idea.  When anyone receives proper sound advice from a forum member about whatever their problem is and its proved that the advice has solved-fixed the problem without having to payi for expensive proffesional help.The receiver of said advice could make a donation to the forums coffers, WITHOUT FAIL.  Or forced to donate by extreme brutality if necessary, or have effiges made of the mean bu..gers and have pins stuck in it to make them squirm all night long, Tony Brooks could be put in charge of that.  A scale of charges could be drawn up like so....... Correct Electrical advice £2 per success.  Engines and transmissions likewise.   Carpentry £2. Painting and rust £1.  Stoves and flu pipes and chimney's £1.2p.  Advice on historical boats 7/6p.  Anything to do with stinkin bogs, £198.05p.  First aid advice, 50p,  Pets, 40p.  Sundry problems 50p. a go. All proceeds could be split so everyones happy, 60% to CWDF and 40% to the advice provider. Anyone who fails to cough up or doesn't respond and thank the advicee-consultant or pretends they didn't ask for advice in the first place,'gets kicked off the forum pronto. Women and pets get a 2% discount if they're nice.  Howssat then.  Looking forward to getting rich folks?,:unsure: lovely Jubbly. :),

Crumbs, I'm going to have to start saving! I'm already indebted to the the good folk of this forum ?

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4 hours ago, bizzard said:

Here's another idea.  When anyone receives proper sound advice from a forum member about whatever their problem is and its proved that the advice has solved-fixed the problem without them having to pay for expensive professional help.The receiver of said advice could make a donation to the forums coffers, WITHOUT FAIL.  Or forced to donate by extreme brutality if necessary, or have effiges made of the mean bu..gers and have pins stuck in it to make them squirm all night long, Tony Brooks could be put in charge of that.  A scale of charges could be drawn up like so....... Correct Electrical advice £2 per success.  Engines and transmissions likewise.   Carpentry £2. Painting and rust £1.  Stoves and flu pipes and chimney's £1.2p.  Advice on historical boats 7/6p.  Anything to do with stinkin bogs, £198.05p.  First aid advice, 50p,  Pets, 40p.  Sundry problems 50p. a go. All proceeds could be split so everyones happy, 60% to CWDF and 40% to the advice provider. Anyone who fails to cough up or doesn't respond and thank the advicee-consultant or pretends they didn't ask for advice in the first place,'gets kicked off the forum pronto. Women and pets get a 2% discount if they're nice.  Howssat then.  Looking forward to getting rich folks?,:unsure: lovely Jubbly. :), Someone would need be to be appointed as judge to judge each case, who's decision is final, and is able to administer any punishments required, brutal, expulsion or otherwise..

Electrical £2. Painting £1? Defo wrong way round.

Double the price if advice comes from a duck.?

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Thanks for all the feedback. Interested to hear views from those both for and against. The poll results don't quite seem to reflect the views mentioned in the comments. :) -

On 11/09/2018 at 10:11, Athy said:

I think that a booklet doing exactly that has arrived with the new edition of Waterways World, though I have not yet read it.

I can't grasp why a completely new forum, rather than a sub-section of this one, has been proposed.

Sub-forums generally get less exposure than a forum in its own right and are better used for niche or more specialist content.

 

The Suggestions & Feedback forum under the Canal World section is intended for suggestions/feedback directly relating to or about Canal World, so it didn't seem suitable to propose a marina & mooring review forum to be created as a sub-forum of this one.

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, RichM said:

Thanks for all the feedback. 

Sub-forums generally get less exposure than a forum in its own right and are better used for niche or more specialist content.

 

Also, the Suggestions & Feedback forum under the Canal world Section is intended for suggestions/feedback directly relating to or about Canal World, so proposing a marina & mooring review forum to be created as a sub-forum of this one doesn't make so much sense.

 

 

 

 

 

So can we get this straight please?? You are proposing a whole new forum separate from CWF, with it's own new domain name?

 

 

 

If so, why are you asking us here?

 

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5 minutes ago, Mike the Boilerman said:

 

So can we get this straight please?? You are proposing a whole new forum separate from CWF, with it's own new domain name?

 

 

 

If so, why are you asking us here?

 

I think Rich is referring to a new forum section in CWF.

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1 minute ago, Mike the Boilerman said:

 

As I understand it, CWF IS the forum. Divided into individual discussion boards.

 

A new forum is just that. Nothing to do with the CWF forum. 

 

But if you look at the home page the top of the list of discussion boards has the title Forums so I guess you could refer to the discussion boards as individual forums although I would agree with your description.

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5 minutes ago, Rob-M said:

I think Rich is referring to a new forum section in CWF.

Yep.

 

Technically General BoatingLiving AfloatBoat Handling etc etc are all forums within their own right forming part of the site or discussion board.

 

I have attached a screenshot labelling the definition I am using for each. Apologies, done in a whim as it's getting late but hope this makes it clearer. 

 

 

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A new forum, expertly moderated as is the norm on CW, can only improve marina standards for boaters. Personally I can only see positives.  If the owner of a marina doesn't like an negative comment, he has the choice to view the comment as an opportunity to improve, or ignore it.

 

There's always going to be different views (thank goodness), look at the recent Wigram thread.

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21 minutes ago, Jennifer McM said:

If the owner of a marina doesn't like an negative comment, he has the choice to view the comment as an opportunity to improve, or ignore it.

 

He also has the option to register here and argue his corner.

 

There is nothing stopping a marina owner explaining here why he thinks a negative comment is wrong or unfair. Its a two way street.  He also has the option of responding with reviews of boater visitors e.g. "The owners of NB Kingfisher who left a negative review of my marina, made a right PITA of themselves through the length of their stay, playing loud music late into the night and ignoring requests to turn it down"

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1 hour ago, Mike the Boilerman said:

 

He also has the option to register here and argue his corner.

 

There is nothing stopping a marina owner explaining here why he thinks a negative comment is wrong or unfair. Its a two way street.  He also has the option of responding with reviews of boater visitors e.g. "The owners of NB Kingfisher who left a negative review of my marina, made a right PITA of themselves through the length of their stay, playing loud music late into the night and ignoring requests to turn it down"

 

I remember several occasions some time ago when negative comments on businesses in these forums were frowned upon and even removed.  Has this policy now changed? 

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3 hours ago, Mac of Cygnet said:

 

I remember several occasions some time ago when negative comments on businesses in these forums were frowned upon and even removed.  Has this policy now changed? 

The FR&G have been updated in recent years though I'm not aware of such policy prohibiting users from expressing negative views about a business, service or product they have used/purchase. However, the current FR&G do state:

"Members are required to conduct themselves in a reasonable fashion in the way that they post, including the language they use and the way that they respond to others."

Therefore, if someone were to post an all out rant in a non-constructive way directed towards another entity, it's likely the moderators will consider to be it in breach of the above and will take action accordingly. 

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12 hours ago, RichM said:

The FR&G have been updated in recent years though I'm not aware of such policy prohibiting users from expressing negative views about a business, service or product they have used/purchase. However, the current FR&G do state:

"Members are required to conduct themselves in a reasonable fashion in the way that they post, including the language they use and the way that they respond to others."

Therefore, if someone were to post an all out rant in a non-constructive way directed towards another entity, it's likely the moderators will consider to be it in breach of the above and will take action accordingly. 

 

No, I'm not talking about rants, more about posts critical of competence or service.  I've dug one up from some time ago about incompetent BSS inspectors, in which RLWP expresses the same view as he has in the present thread. 

 

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