Momac Posted September 8, 2018 Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 11 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said: Not many people camping / hiking up the Pennine Way, Snowdon or the Cairngorms or other 'cold' regions would consider carrying a 907 Cylinder. True My interest in the subject is I use 907's on the boat because the gas locker is made for them. £35 for the last 907 refill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWM Posted September 8, 2018 Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 The cylinders for both butane and propane are identical, the only difference being the valve fitted to it. The regulator is the only safety critical component involved. The reason that you see other colours of paint underneath is down to increased demand for a particular type, with propane selling faster through the winter than patio gas and butane for barbeque use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted September 8, 2018 Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 (edited) 32 minutes ago, MartynG said: True My interest in the subject is I use 907's on the boat because the gas locker is made for them. £35 for the last 907 refill. Our Cat, being French manufacture has gas lockers designed for the Gaz cylinders. The 907 is 2.75kg of gas, and, as you say £30+ per cylinder. We have found that the Calor Propane 3.9kg cylinder fits into the locker and at a cost of £16 (ish) is half the price for almost 50% more gas. Try one - it may fit in your gas locker. Edit to add : The Calor 3.9kg cylinder is 340mm High x 240mm diameter The Gaz 907 cylinder is 250mm High x 202mm diameter Edited September 8, 2018 by Alan de Enfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 8, 2018 Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Alan de Enfield said: Our Cat, being French manufacture has gas lockers designed for the Gaz cylinders. The 907 is 2.75kg of gas, and, as you say £30+ per cylinder. We have found that the Calor Propane 3.9kg cylinder fits into the locker and at a cost of £16 (ish) is half the price for almost 50% more gas. Try one - it may fit in your gas locker. Edit to add : The Calor 3.9kg cylinder is 340mm High x 240mm diameter The Gaz 907 cylinder is 250mm High x 202mm diameter A gas powered moggy, and French too, interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momac Posted September 8, 2018 Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 9 minutes ago, MJG said: A gas powered moggy, and French too, interesting. Chat-Heur-Meringue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted September 8, 2018 Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, MartynG said: Chat-Heur-Meringue I like Lemon meringue with fluffy egg white on top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBiscuits Posted September 8, 2018 Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Alan de Enfield said: I like Lemon meringue with fluffy egg white on top. And rubber. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul C Posted September 9, 2018 Report Share Posted September 9, 2018 On 07/09/2018 at 21:44, Loddon said: You could gets these cylinders and refill from autogas stations http://www.safefill.co.uk This The "safe" way, is to have the correct fittings and have the device which ensures no greater than an 80% fill is done on the bottle, the Safefill bottle has that. You save by filling it up at an LPG station, but the capital cost of the bottle (with its safety stuff and connector(s)) needs to be factored in. I imagine anyone offering a smaller bottle could, but doesn't, because of the economics of the situation. All the same, many (probably most) petrol stations won't let you put LPG into anything except a vehicle (their regulations state it needs to have an automatic device to ensure its not overfilled, but pragmatically the attendants would probably not let you do a camping gas bottle, even a Safefill one, without an argument). You might be lucky and have one of the few garages which are okay on refills near you, or be able to persuade a local garage its okay and then you can do repeated refills etc. (Accurate) weighing of the bottle isn't automatic so it can't be done at the petrol station. Additionally, I'd shudder at refilling any container designed for single use, not sure what the little camping gas ones are? Are we talking about refillables, or single use cans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirweste Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 On 08/09/2018 at 20:10, Alan de Enfield said: My total 3-day pack (including tent, sleeping bag, mattress, food, clothes, water, stove, gas, etc etc) only weighs 10kg. Only 10kg!? Did you miss the bricks you carry with you off this list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 On 09/09/2018 at 08:14, Paul C said: This The "safe" way, is to have the correct fittings and have the device which ensures no greater than an 80% fill is done on the bottle, the Safefill bottle has that. You save by filling it up at an LPG station, but the capital cost of the bottle (with its safety stuff and connector(s)) needs to be factored in. I imagine anyone offering a smaller bottle could, but doesn't, because of the economics of the situation. All the same, many (probably most) petrol stations won't let you put LPG into anything except a vehicle (their regulations state it needs to have an automatic device to ensure its not overfilled, but pragmatically the attendants would probably not let you do a camping gas bottle, even a Safefill one, without an argument). You might be lucky and have one of the few garages which are okay on refills near you, or be able to persuade a local garage its okay and then you can do repeated refills etc. (Accurate) weighing of the bottle isn't automatic so it can't be done at the petrol station. Additionally, I'd shudder at refilling any container designed for single use, not sure what the little camping gas ones are? Are we talking about refillables, or single use cans? Morrison's will (or rather should) now let you fill a Safefill bottle without quibble. http://www.safefill.co.uk/safefill-refilling-partners-morrisons.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayalld Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 On 07/09/2018 at 20:29, rasputin said: lol Yes I know the risks lots of people do it lots of people have potentially explosive bombs on their boats motorhomes homes etc. anybody with useful advice? pm me if you dont want the wrath of the right ons on here Yes, useful advice: Feel free to be a risk taker as much as you want, just so long as you take risks with your own life, not with the lives of others 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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