arlow11 Posted August 11, 2018 Report Share Posted August 11, 2018 i have just won this boat on ebay, https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Springer-narrowboat-26ft-/273387230756?ul_noapp=true&nma=true&si=4ZF0op1V62mIrazdbQmU05863C8%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 im concerned that i may get ripped off, i have been and left a deposit,and from the outside the hull ect looks solid,theres a few holes on the back deck but heres the story,it was some guy who was doing it up gave up,sold it to the ebayers dad where its stood for 10 years, he bought it off his dad and has spent 6 months working on it, but he know nothing about boats not even what everything called,but if its stolen surley you would steal a nicer boat,but my main issue is he has an old survey from when his dad acquired it ,its clearly says its a cruiser stern,and it looks semi trad to me,any thoughts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted August 11, 2018 Report Share Posted August 11, 2018 Its a cruiser stern. The old Survey is pretty much irrelevant (especially if it has been in the water), and being 25 years old, and a Springer, you may find that any insurance company will require a full survey before offering to insure it. You can get 3rd party insurance without a survey - your choice. Assuming a solid hull and stripping out the 'modern arty' stuff you look to have a reasonable foundation to build a boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted August 11, 2018 Report Share Posted August 11, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, arlow11 said: im concerned that i may get ripped off, I'm puzzled how you think this could happen. If anyone is ripping anyone off, it is you ripping off yourself by bidding on it surely? £7,600 seems reasonable for a stripped out ancient Springer, but hardly a bargain. The only valid complaint you could have is if the description in the listing is false or misleading in some way. Edited August 11, 2018 by Mike the Boilerman Missing worm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmelly Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 Is this a case of buyer remorse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, mrsmelly said: Is this a case of buyer remorse? Is that another way of saying "i was really drunk at the time"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hurley Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 1 minute ago, rusty69 said: Is that another way of saying "i was really drunk at the time"? And while looking at the advert i hiccuped and a piece of meat fell out of my Kebab and landed on the Buy it now button. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 43 minutes ago, Mike Hurley said: And while looking at the advert i hiccuped and a piece of meat fell out of my Kebab and landed on the Buy it now button. And then ANOTHER piece of meat fell out and landed on the “Confirm your Purchase” button that comes up next!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, Mike the Boilerman said: And then ANOTHER piece of meat fell out and landed on the “Confirm your Purchase” button that comes up next!! Sheeesh. Kebabs eh. Bloomin dangerous! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hurley Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, Mike the Boilerman said: And then ANOTHER piece of meat fell out and landed on the “Confirm your Purchase” button that comes up next!! No, that got pressed when the chilli sauce was wiped off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 It raises an interesting point though. Should Mr smelly be right and the OP regrets his decision to buy and seeks to cancel the purchase, I don’t think there is anything the seller can do to force a sale. The OP will lose their eBay ‘reputation’ by failing to complete the deal but that is better than ‘losing’ £7.6k and gaining a white elephant of a boat. Are eBay auctions enforceable in law, should the seller be so minded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Mike the Boilerman said: It raises an interesting point though. Should Mr smelly be right and the OP regrets his decision to buy and seeks to cancel the purchase, I don’t think there is anything the seller can do to force a sale. The OP will lose their eBay ‘reputation’ by failing to complete the deal but that is better than ‘losing’ £7.6k and gaining a white elephant of a boat. Are eBay auctions enforceable in law, should the seller be so minded? Suspect the seller would offer it to next highest bidder instead. ETA. It wasn't that long ago the guy who bought a fairground carousel in error for 180K https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-43318976 Edited August 12, 2018 by rusty69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, rusty69 said: Suspect the seller would offer it to next highest bidder instead. True, but the under bidders are under no obligation to buy. My point was the winner of a real life auction can be legally compelled to complete the deal. Does this apply to eBay too? Is the OP skewered?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Mike the Boilerman said: Does this apply to eBay too? Is the OP skewered?? I Don-er know. Suspect they would be liable for fees at the very least (and a new k̶e̶y̶b̶a̶b̶ keyboard) Edited August 12, 2018 by rusty69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightwatch Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 In my view, for what it's worth, is that the op has won a bid to buy a boat for £7+ grand. The survey from 2007 seemed to show that the hull was very reasonable, if not good, condition. I reckon it's possibly one of the good ones. (I have in my mind there are good and bad Springers). Even if the boat has been in the water in the meantime the hull could still be reasonable. Get a hull survey, check out the engine, get a BSC. It floats. It moves. It's safe. Theres a little more than finishing off to be done. The OP may be a whizz at 'finishing' things off and gets a serviceable boat for approximately £8000 or so. I'd get rid of the fancy paint job on the hatch! Just my thoughts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hurley Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 He also has paid a deposit so that must be some sort of contractual obligation to buy? Could be a cheap boat with a little investment, if it was me i would get a BSS done, put it in the water and enjoy it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 15 minutes ago, rusty69 said: I Don-er know. Suspect they would be liable for fees at the very least (and a new k̶e̶y̶b̶a̶b̶ keyboard) So does the team think the OP should pay up like a lamb....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightwatch Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 Sheepish remark Mike. If he pays up, in my opinion he's not getting fleeced. He'll be getting a potential baaaaaagin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 Just now, Mike the Boilerman said: So does the team think the OP should pay up like a lamb....? A late night kebab is never a good idea.You always pay the day after in my experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, rusty69 said: A late night kebab is never a good idea.You always pay the day after in my experience. I find I have to pay before they hand it over! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 Right, a brief goggle suggests an eBay purchase is not a legally enforceable contract so the OP can probably safely tell the seller to spin on it. I doubt he will get his deposit back though, or would be taking the pish to request it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hurley Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 23 minutes ago, Mike the Boilerman said: So does the team think the OP should pay up like a lamb....? Buying a boat takes some thought, you Mutton rush into it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 12 minutes ago, Mike Hurley said: Buying a boat takes some thought, you Mutton rush into it. Is that your TUPpence worth, or are you trying to Ram the idea into the OP, are EWE always like this ??? WETHER you are correct or not we will have to wait and see, there is no pulling the WOOL over your eyes is there ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommytelford Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 interesting that it is not listed in the Canalplan boat register. I know that is not totally up to date Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hurley Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 15 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said: Is that your TUPpence worth, or are you trying to Ram the idea into the OP, are EWE always like this ??? WETHER you are correct or not we will have to wait and see, there is no pulling the WOOL over your eyes is there ? I feel i have been LAMBasted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumshie Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 2 hours ago, Mike Hurley said: And while looking at the advert i hiccuped and a piece of meat fell out of my Kebab and landed on the Buy it now button. 2 hours ago, Mike the Boilerman said: And then ANOTHER piece of meat fell out and landed on the “Confirm your Purchase” button that comes up next!! 2 hours ago, rusty69 said: Sheeesh. Kebabs eh. Bloomin dangerous! 2 hours ago, Mike Hurley said: No, that got pressed when the chilli sauce was wiped off. Ugh - Boys is gross! 27 minutes ago, Mike Hurley said: I feel i have been LAMBasted. Which is better than being fleeced. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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