Parahandy Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 I have been searching for a suitable Box/Tool Vault to place on my Front Deck in order to store Coal in the Winter Months . This has been prompted by the now almost Annual repaint of my front Deck where I store the Coal during the Winter Months . What generally happens is that during periods of Rain the Water runs off the top of the Bags and ends up causing Surface Rust over a period of Months I have been looking at several online , I was thinking of Heavy Duty Black Plastic and was hoping to store six 25kg Bags . I have noticed a nice Chequer Plate silver one online though it looks a bit OTT in my view as the Boat is painted in Donegal Green and Black with Epiphanes Multiforte Red Decks and it sort of clashes and looks too much . Has anyone any thoughts or indeed experiences , I shall stick a couple of Links up to show what I have been looking at https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Aluminium-storage-tool-box-vault-Navara-L200-Ranger-Navara-Hilux-custom/202320549589?hash=item2f1b3e96d5%3Ag%3AGZUAAOSwYmZXH1A6&_sacat=0&_nkw=storage+vaults&_from=R40&rt=nc&_trksid=m570.l1313 https://www.buyshedsdirect.co.uk/4-x2-toomax-black-320l-garden-storage-box?_$ja=tsid:|cid:1083053913|agid:61318323548|tid:pla-307715563654|crid:256202089397|nw:s|rnd:12006758315138533081|dvc:c|adp:1o3&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIqsv9v_3E3AIVSLTtCh0ovQkYEAQYAyABEgKKwPD_BwE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray T Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 Make a "proper" coal box, doubles up as a step as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Bob Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 We bought a heavy duty HDPE box from Homebase, which stores 4 bags of coal, but that is in our cratch which is covered so not open to the elements in winter. It was only £20 ish but does a very good job. For outside, you would need to make sure the lid fitted better. Also, if you go for HDPE (high density polyethylene), try and see some reviews on it. Most black HDPE will predominantly be made from recycle PE and so is likely to not have much UV stabiliser in .....so it will start to fall apart if in the sun over 3 or 4 years. HDPE will last for 10 years or more (as per Oil storage tanks for domestic heating which are designed for 25 year life) but they have a lot of UV stabiliser added and are made with high stress crack resistant polymer. Most people who make black products from recycle HDPE dont understand the need to add additional UV stabiliser and use a lot of unsuitable HDPE. I like the idea of the Aluminium one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 3 hours ago, Parahandy said: I have been searching for a suitable Box/Tool Vault to place on my Front Deck in order to store Coal in the Winter Months . No politics or religion in the news today ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 Just now, Alan de Enfield said: No politics or religion in the news today ? This is part of the Dr's cure (see Boris thread) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Ambrose Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 3 hours ago, Ray T said: Make a "proper" coal box, doubles up as a step as well. Never going to get 6x25kg bags of coal in there. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacka Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 2 hours ago, Dr Bob said: We bought a heavy duty HDPE box from Homebase, which stores 4 bags of coal, but that is in our cratch which is covered so not open to the elements in winter. It was only £20 ish but does a very good job. For outside, you would need to make sure the lid fitted better. Also, if you go for HDPE (high density polyethylene), try and see some reviews on it. Most black HDPE will predominantly be made from recycle PE and so is likely to not have much UV stabiliser in .....so it will start to fall apart if in the sun over 3 or 4 years. HDPE will last for 10 years or more (as per Oil storage tanks for domestic heating which are designed for 25 year life) but they have a lot of UV stabiliser added and are made with high stress crack resistant polymer. Most people who make black products from recycle HDPE dont understand the need to add additional UV stabiliser and use a lot of unsuitable HDPE. I like the idea of the Aluminium one. I’m sure they do understand, but they also know if it lasts about 5 years you will reluctantly buy another without complaining too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Bob Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 13 minutes ago, Chewbacka said: I’m sure they do understand, but they also know if it lasts about 5 years you will reluctantly buy another without complaining too much. You would be surprised at the level of technical knowledge of HDPE of companies who mould recycle plastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacka Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, Dr Bob said: You would be surprised at the level of technical knowledge of HDPE of companies who mould recycle plastic. I suspect you mean complete lack of said knowledge ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Bob Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 Just now, Chewbacka said: I suspect you mean complete lack of said knowledge ? I did a lot of tech service visits to companies processing recycled HDPE in the last 15 years and most didnt know anything about UV stabilisers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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