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Ravencraft

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Hi. I have broken the outer oven door of my Vannette GG7000 which is now obsolete apparently. Looks like i need to buy a new oven. They are so expensive & i have the added problem of it being only about 45cm deep which throws out shop bought ones i have found, also the hob is built into the work top. Does anyone have any ideas at all? If the hob is separate, can i just replace the oven? Does anyone know who would fit this please? I'm in Yelvertoft.20180716_181016.jpg.d6afce97433f81a1355a353ddecd1902.jpg

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Ok.. well im bidding on the ebay link one, thank you Rusty69...although its not as tall & I'd have to put it on blocks but i guess it'll give me extra storage space... so we'll see if i win it....now i need to find someone who fits these ovens. Any suggestions please? 

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1 minute ago, Ravencraft said:

Ok.. well im bidding on the ebay link one, thank you Rusty69...although its not as tall & I'd have to put it on blocks but i guess it'll give me extra storage space... so we'll see if i win it....now i need to find someone who fits these ovens. Any suggestions please? 

Are you a liveaboard ?

 

If so you need to find someone who is Gas safe registered for LPG (Boats) as the installation comes under the GSIUR regulations.

 

If you are not a liveaboard then you need to find someone who is 'competent' (normally taken to mean Gas safe Registered, but anyone can do it.)

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20 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:

Are you a liveaboard ?

 

If so you need to find someone who is Gas safe registered for LPG (Boats) as the installation comes under the GSIUR regulations.

 

If you are not a liveaboard then you need to find someone who is 'competent' (normally taken to mean Gas safe Registered, but anyone can do it.)

 

Not quite the full story.

 

If a liveaboard the GSIUR apply. These require anyone being PAID to do gas work in a residence to be Gas Safe Registered. 

 

If they are not being paid then they only need to be 'competent'. The regulations are silent on what constitutes competence.

 

If you are not a liveaboard there are no regs governing who can fit your cooker. Any old Tom Dick or Harry can do it, competent or not. Paid for the work or not. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Mike the Boilerman said:

Not quite the full story.

 

If a liveaboard the GSIUR apply. These require anyone being PAID to do gas work in a residence to be Gas Safe Registered. 

 

If they are not being paid then they only need to be 'competent'. The regulations are silent on what constitutes competence.

That's an eye opener! I assume that the distinction between paid and unpaid fitters doesn't apply to shoreside residences, does it Mike?

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58 minutes ago, Sea Dog said:

That's an eye opener! I assume that the distinction between paid and unpaid fitters doesn't apply to shoreside residences, does it Mike?

Shoreside requires GSR regardless of what the work is as I understand matters. 

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1 hour ago, Sea Dog said:

That's an eye opener! I assume that the distinction between paid and unpaid fitters doesn't apply to shoreside residences, does it Mike?

 

Yes this applies to shoreside residences too.

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9 minutes ago, Mike the Boilerman said:

 

Yes this applies to shoreside residences too.

So when I reconnect the gas hob that I just removed at home, that’s perfectly acceptable as long as I don’t pay myself and that I do it competently?

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1 minute ago, WotEver said:

Oh goody :)

 

 

Just don't test it by pumping your system up to 2,000psi, leaving it overnight and looking for virtually no drop on the pressure gauge next morning. Like some loon on here used to (now banned). 

 

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5 minutes ago, Mike the Boilerman said:

 

Just don't test it by pumping your system up to 2,000psi, leaving it overnight and looking for virtually no drop on the pressure gauge next morning. Like some loon on here used to (now banned). 

 

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I’ll test it with washing up liquid (which I will then wash off). I’m too scared to test it with a taper like I saw a fitter do in a chip shop once.  

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3 minutes ago, WotEver said:

I’m too scared to test it with a taper like I saw a fitter do in a chip shop once.

 

THAT is the quick and dirty old skool way of testing for leaks but I'm sure you can imagine what can go wrong! 

 

It was such widespread practice that they specifically described and banned it in the 1998 version of the GSIUR.

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9 hours ago, Mike the Boilerman said:

 

Just don't test it by pumping your system up to 2,000psi, leaving it overnight and looking for virtually no drop on the pressure gauge next morning. Like some loon on here used to (now banned).

?

 

I had no idea that testing your gas system in this manner breeched Forum T&Cs - we live and learn!

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9 hours ago, WotEver said:

Shoreside requires GSR regardless of what the work is as I understand matters. 

That's what I thought too!

9 hours ago, Mike the Boilerman said:

 

Yes this applies to shoreside residences too.

Well blow me down! (But not up)

 

Must be about 30 years since I last fitted a gas hob at home after it dawned on me that I'd been working on a 4000psi air system that day so I'd probably be ok at gas main pressure. However, I've not touched it since, not least because I believed it had been forbidden.  Several houses later we have an induction hob so it probably makes no difference, but I've learned something anyway. Thanks Mike. :)

 

 

 

 

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Oh goodness that all sounds a nightmare. Yes it would be livaboard & yes i would expect to pay the correct person to do it so my BSS & therefore insurance, is all covered. So i just grab someone from 'yellow pages' or will it have to be a marine specialist? 

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4 hours ago, Ravencraft said:

Oh goodness that all sounds a nightmare. Yes it would be livaboard & yes i would expect to pay the correct person to do it so my BSS & therefore insurance, is all covered. So i just grab someone from 'yellow pages' or will it have to be a marine specialist? 

You either ask around or you search the GSR for a fitter who’s qualified for both LPG and Boats (there aren’t that many I found). 

https://www.gassaferegister.co.uk/

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5 hours ago, Ravencraft said:

or will it have to be a marine specialist? 

Gas-Safe 'fitters' are issued with a plastic card, the card shows what they are qualified to work on (like the back of a driving licence shows, Motorcycle, Car, car & Trailer, Bus etc etc)

 

You need to ensure that the one you employ has

1) LPG certification

2) Boat certification

 

There are many who are LPG & Caravan, LPG and 'House', but few who are LPG & Boat.

 

A 'good one' will tell you / show you if they are LPG & Boat, a bad one will say "no problem, I can do it but my 'ticket' is lost / in for renewal / in the post etc".

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