Tonka Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 Just come through Claydon. There are planning signs with reference to a new marina between bridges 143 and 144. Not sure what stage is it at yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 We've been through there twice in the last few days and did not notice any signs - but then we didn't tarry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 There was a residents meeting planned to moan about it apparently. I dunno if it has happened yet. 150 boat marina apparently part way up the flight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 11 minutes ago, Mike the Boilerman said: There was a residents meeting planned to moan about it apparently. I dunno if it has happened yet. 150 boat marina apparently part way up the flight. Well that will make a right horlicks of the Claydon flight - not only in terms of excessive boat movements and concomitant water loss, but also of blemishing what I think is the prettiest lock flight on the waterways (of those which I have seen, of course). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGoat Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Mike the Boilerman said: There was a residents meeting planned to moan about it apparently. I dunno if it has happened yet. 150 boat marina apparently part way up the flight. Part way up the flight seems daft to me - especially as there are always (?) water problems / challenges on the summit. I'm probably talking cojones - so discuss... Edited July 13, 2018 by OldGoat spelling - so I'm told Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenataomm Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 Cojones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonka Posted July 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 According to the signs it is planned for on the summit between bridges 143 and 144. Can't remember which side of canal. Don't know where Mtb gets his info from!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGoat Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, Athy said: Well that will make a right horlicks of the Claydon flight - not only in terms of excessive boat movements and concomitant water loss, but also of blemishing what I think is the prettiest lock flight on the waterways (of those which I have seen, of course). Aha - indirect support (while I typed) - and I agree; it's especially pretty on the long reach. However (if it has to be) what about the leat to the old pump house, that's a bit scruffy?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Lewis Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 48 minutes ago, Tonka said: Just come through Claydon. There are planning signs with reference to a new marina between bridges 143 and 144. Not sure what stage is it at yet This one: https://www.publicaccess.cherwell.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=externalDocuments&keyVal=P9315YEM0N400 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightwatch Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 If you look at the site if SB Rice (consultants) they have a pending application fir a 250 berth marina at Cherwell DC. Looks like a local farming partnership, WA Adams Partnership, arable farms. Bet it's their land. The above cobsultants are the agents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightwatch Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Tonka said: According to the signs it is planned for on the summit between bridges 143 and 144. Can't remember which side of canal. Don't know where Mtb gets his info from!!! We have moored at the end of the straight at the bottom of Claydon locks. Must have seen you but not aware of boat name. Did you turn round and head back as we were mooring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Son Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 Probably find that once the boats get into a marina very few will actually venture out again!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightwatch Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 Just now, Old Son said: Probably find that once the boats get into a marina very few will actually venture out again!! I agree. But that's okay. More funds in CRTs coffers and they're not abusing the system. When Cropredy marina was proposed, we were moored on farm moorings a couple of locks up from the site. Local fear was lack of water. There's always been periodic water shortages in the area. We entered Cropredy marina this morning to use the services. 90% of the boats were in there. The water shortage has not got any worse as far as I can tell. We have been away from here for about four years apart from a dash down and through this time last year. So, true. Get them all tucked away in marinas I say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Son Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 Same happened at Roydon on the Lea. Only a handful of boats actually got out regularly from some 250 or so moored there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 3 hours ago, Tonka said: According to the signs it is planned for on the summit between bridges 143 and 144. Can't remember which side of canal. Don't know where Mtb gets his info from!!! That well known and reliable source, the towpath telegraph! And it's planned for the east side of the canal apparently. Or it might be the west... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 47 minutes ago, Mike the Boilerman said: That well known and reliable source, the towpath telegraph! And it's planned for the east side of the canal apparently. Or it might be the west... No, it's going over it, like the HS2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 The same side as the cottage at the top of the flight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogless Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 The prettiest flight of locks on the system, is of course Bank Newton in either direction. The back drop alone is stunning. Rog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tecka Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 Being quite sad and having a bit of free time I've read most of the information in the link posted by Tim. So for those without the time to read through. It's a 250 berth marina, set up as semi-individual lagoons. Essentially the owners cite potential loss of agricultural grants due to Brexit and the need to diversify Every public comment is an objection The EA has objected on 4 points 1/ The proposal is in a flood risk area 2/ Because the proposal requires banking to bring the level of the field to the canal it means a reduction in flood relief. 3/ There will be an impact on Wildlife and fisheries not yet mitigated 4/ Lack of connection to public sewerage and related risk of pollution They have recommended possible ways to mitigate The local council have objected due to the rural nature of the area, unsuitable access from road and lack of public transport in the area The area planner objects due to visual impact and recommended reducing the scale CRT have objected to the bridge and clubhouse design due to impact from the canal I may not have got all this 100% right as I've spent an hour reading through and paraphrased a fair chunk. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightwatch Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 I'm not surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Lewis Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Tecka said: Being quite sad and having a bit of free time I've read most of the information in the link posted by Tim. So for those without the time to read through. It's a 250 berth marina, set up as semi-individual lagoons. Essentially the owners cite potential loss of agricultural grants due to Brexit and the need to diversify Every public comment is an objection The EA has objected on 4 points 1/ The proposal is in a flood risk area 2/ Because the proposal requires banking to bring the level of the field to the canal it means a reduction in flood relief. 3/ There will be an impact on Wildlife and fisheries not yet mitigated 4/ Lack of connection to public sewerage and related risk of pollution They have recommended possible ways to mitigate The local council have objected due to the rural nature of the area, unsuitable access from road and lack of public transport in the area The area planner objects due to visual impact and recommended reducing the scale CRT have objected to the bridge and clubhouse design due to impact from the canal I may not have got all this 100% right as I've spent an hour reading through and paraphrased a fair chunk. Interestingly though CRT have stated that the development will have no adverse effect on water supply Also that the EA objection point 4 is based in it being a 250 dwelling development! 2 hours ago, Old Son said: Same happened at Roydon on the Lea. Only a handful of boats actually got out regularly from some 250 or so moored there. Er, isn't Roydon on the Stort ? Edited July 13, 2018 by Tim Lewis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty40s Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 7 minutes ago, Tim Lewis said: Er, isn't Roydon on the Stort ? Most people who live there dont even realise there's a river passing by...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tecka Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, Tim Lewis said: Interestingly though CRT have stated that the development will have no adverse effect on water supply Also that the EA objection point 4 above assumes that it is a 250 dwelling development! I've often wondered about the relationship between CRT wanting money through a NAA and the supply of water for marina development, there must be a income/benefit calculation somewhere! I didn't pick up on the dwelling vs lesuire mooring point, well spotted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mack Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Tecka said: I've often wondered about the relationship between CRT wanting money through a NAA and the supply of water for marina development, there must be a income/benefit calculation somewhere. CRT will want a water resources impact study doing (at the developer's expense) as part of the process of agreeing a NAA. So they already hold all the cards on this subject, and don't need to make an issue of it in the planning process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tecka Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, matty40s said: Most people who live there dont even realise there's a river passing by...... I've seen this myself, way back in 2008 I project managed the HLF restoration of part of the Lambourne through Newbury. I remember talking to people whose gardens actually backed into the river who didn't know it existed. The really stupid thing was that most of them actually crossed the river via a bridge to get to the houses. It's crazy how little some people pay attention to their surroundings! 7 minutes ago, David Mack said: CRT will want a water resources impact study doing (at the developer's expense) as part of the process of agreeing a NAA. So they already hold all the cards on this subject, and don't need to make an issue of it in the planning process. They've actually already done a water resources impact study as part of the expression of interest and feasibility stages. From what I can tell this was done by CRT, there is probably a cost to the developer I agree. Edited July 13, 2018 by Tecka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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