Cloudinspector Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 (edited) We passed this boat on the T&M near bridge 76 last week. Can anyone identify it for me? I’m guessing it’s an ex FMC josher but my knowledge is limited. Edited July 9, 2018 by Cloudinspector Missing text Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete harrison Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 (edited) I do not know where Bridge 76 is but this is F.M.C. Ltd. motor LILY edit = LILY suffered cabin fire damage near Blisworth in late 2006 and as far as I am aware has never been returned to service. Edited July 9, 2018 by pete harrison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloudinspector Posted July 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 37 minutes ago, pete harrison said: I do not know where Bridge 76 is but I am sure this is F.M.C. Ltd. motor LILY edit = LILY suffered cabin fire damage near Blisworth in late 2006 and as far as I am aware has never been returned to service. Sorry I should have said, bridge 76 is just north of Great Haywood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete harrison Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, Cloudinspector said: Sorry I should have said, bridge 76 is just north of Great Haywood. Please note my edited post where I state that this is LILY, my alteration following comparing photographs of Braunston 2006 and 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 Appears to be missing an engine too, looking at the height of the uxter plate above the water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob-M Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 It is LILY, I used to moor next to the current owners who are slowly working on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnboy770 Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 Lily as said before, this was her in around 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 25 minutes ago, Johnboy770 said: Lily as said before, this was her in around 2008 She is well out of the water in that photo as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 23 minutes ago, ditchcrawler said: She is well out of the water in that photo as well Yes. So does the team think there is no engine, or just a very light one? Or do all carrying boats run with the uxter that far out of the water when unladen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete harrison Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 In 2006 LILY was powered by a single cylinder 20hp Bolinder BM, it having been fitted in 1998 replacing a single cylinder 25hp Seffle that had been in this boat since 1963. I like to run with the counter a few inches out of the water but I do not think LILY would make much progress that high out. My suspicion is that the boat is pumped out and with an empty(ish) fuel tank, and perhaps some ballast removed - if it had any ballast as it was sometimes loaded prior to the fire in late 2006 copyright Jon Millard - Braunston June 2006 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloudinspector Posted July 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 Thanks for the info. She’s a thing of beauty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 32 minutes ago, Cloudinspector said: Thanks for the info. She’s a thing of beauty. Was, surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek R. Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 If the owners are "slowly" working on her, time seems to be working faster. (As it always does). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 10 hours ago, Mike the Boilerman said: Yes. So does the team think there is no engine, or just a very light one? Or do all carrying boats run with the uxter that far out of the water when unladen? I think it has an engine present, but very little fuel and ballast. As Pete says progress would be slow, I think. Stopping is the worst bit in cases like that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 2 hours ago, alan_fincher said: Stopping is the worst bit in cases like that! Yes. I find with even the slightest bit of uxter plate out of the water, the brakes completely vanish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete harrison Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 8 hours ago, alan_fincher said: I think it has an engine present, but very little fuel and ballast. As Pete says progress would be slow, I think. Stopping is the worst bit in cases like that! 6 hours ago, Mike the Boilerman said: Yes. I find with even the slightest bit of uxter plate out of the water, the brakes completely vanish. About 90% of all the boating I have done since the early 1970's has been with a motor / butty pair. Perhaps this way of boating makes the steerer think / plan further ahead as reverse is often not much of an option, with the butty pushing you on or the risk of a tow line on the blades - both of which can lead to mayhem and is somewhat unprofessional. I like to run with the counter a few inches out for a couple of reasons, 1 - the counter pulls down to only flat on when moving forward so keeping draught to a minimum and speed to a maximum as more water feeds into the propeller (and less chance of hitting underwater obstructions) and 2 - I think it looks cool. When I recovered my boat off the River Thames a few weeks ago the counter was further out than I would normally have it, but I was amazed how quickly it pulled down and how well it reversed / stopped - but it did cavitate a bit as air was pulled in from about half way down the swims Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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