Su Jonesy Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 Why do people have to empty their pump out toilets into the canal? In Burscough this happens everyday as boaters seem to think because this is a quite stretch the can. This weather it's terribly smelly and a health hazzard. I darent carry out prop clearing. Offenders should be fined or their licences revoked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWM Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 If you see someone doing that report them firstly to the environment agency, and then to Crt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard10002 Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 (edited) Presumably, they don’t get caught and, if reported, there’s no proof Edited July 1, 2018 by Richard10002 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Su Jonesy Posted July 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 I wish I could find out who is doing it. Quite a few boats by the amount of filth floating about. Just passers through not locals. Defo NIMBY boaters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 Just now, Su Jonesy said: I wish I could find out who is doing it. Quite a few boats by the amount of filth floating about. Just passers through not locals. If you don't know who is doing it, how do you know its 'passers thru' ? Had I been asked I would have thought 'passers thru' would be unlikely to do it as they will be passing a elsan point most days. I would have suggested the guilty party(s) are those locals that don't move very much and its easier to tip it overboard than it is to start up the boat and go and find an elsan station. Try getting photo's of the offenders then you will know rather than just speculating. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Su Jonesy Posted July 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 Where I am there is only an elsan no pump out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Su Jonesy said: Where I am there is only an elsan no pump out. There you go then - its the locals doing it as there is no pump-out, they are DIY pumping out into the canal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Su Jonesy said: I wish I could find out who is doing it. Quite a few boats by the amount of filth floating about. Just passers through not locals. Defo NIMBY boaters What a bizarre argument. I don't know who is doing it, but they are definitely not locals! Not really on to make an allegation you appear to have no proof for. Edited July 1, 2018 by alan_fincher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Su Jonesy Posted July 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 Like I said where I am it's quiet. Only a few regular boaters and liveaboards majority have cassettes and even if we all pumped into the canal at the same time it would still be a lot less mess than what's in there now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac of Cygnet Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 (edited) I know what she means, though. Around Burscough there is quite a bit of brown frothy stuff floating around. I didn't immediately assume it was boaters' sewage, and there wasn't any extra smell, but I still avoided contact as far as I could. People were letting their dogs swim in it, though. Edited July 1, 2018 by Mac of Cygnet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 So it's "very quiet", but even so at least one "non local" boat pumps out it's pump out tank directly into that stretch of canal. Not something that people regularly stand accused of elsewhere, so wh do you imaine this stretch has been singled out for this unusual behaviour? I'm sorry - I for one don't buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 1 minute ago, alan_fincher said: So it's "very quiet", but even so at least one "non local" boat pumps out it's pump out tank directly into that stretch of canal. No, you are not listening it's LOTS of passing boats, even if it was all of the local boats there wouldn't be so much 'scum'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Su Jonesy Posted July 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 Ah at last someone is getting the gist of this. Anyway said what I was thinking Not on here to argue. Just pointing at the fact that there seems a lot of filth in this canal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewIC Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 Not being of the pump out persuasion I wouldn't know, but do a high proportion of boats with pump out toilets also carry self pump out kit? If this is a regular occurrence in one locality then one local with no sense of responsibility sounds more likely than lots of passing boats which all happen to have their own pumps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alway Swilby Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, AndrewIC said: Not being of the pump out persuasion I wouldn't know, but do a high proportion of boats with pump out toilets also carry self pump out kit? If this is a regular occurrence in one locality then one local with no sense of responsibility sounds more likely than lots of passing boats which all happen to have their own pumps. When we had a pumpout toilet we didn't have a self pumpout kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 There are hundreds of boats going through there at the moment all heading for Liverpool. When I passed through in sunny weather it was very busy, but I bet 90% of the boats were from local moorings just going out for the Bank Holiday weekend and getting stuck at the swing bridge which broke every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenataomm Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 If there's something anti-social or against common decency going on in a cut near you, report it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 Just now, zenataomm said: If there's something anti-social or against common decency going on in a cut near you, report it. ................ and preferably not just on here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momac Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 Report the pollution to the environment agency. You are assuming it is from boats but could be illegal discharge from some other source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 Or it may not even be sewage, it could be organic material coming up due to the warm weather, but then it may not, The EA will sample and tell for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenA Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, MartynG said: Report the pollution to the environment agency. You are assuming it is from boats but could be illegal discharge from some other source. Hoscar Moss sewage treatment works - I think that has a discharge into the canal. I have to admit I'm confused how passing boats are pumping out into the canal without it being very obvious to everyone. I have seen sludge from the bottom of the canal lift and float on the surface when it gets rather warm.. which it currently is... so could it be that? Also I suspect a lot of crud might have been stirred up by the breach and now the re-filling... Edited July 1, 2018 by StephenA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmr Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 In ten years of CCing I have seen one possible case of a boater doing a pumpout into the cut, though it was actually a small river. So is the OP saying that all of these offending boats choose to moor up at Burscough, get their self pump out kit out onto the bank and do a pumpout? It just doesn't happen like that. I know there are very few pumpout facilities on that bit of canal, but surely if it was going to happen it would be done out in the sticks and out of sight?. Its most likely a natural process due to the hot weather and nothing to do with sewage, otherwise its a local static boat emptying a cassette into the cut. .............Dave 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X Alan W Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Su Jonesy said: Like I said where I am it's quiet. Only a few regular boaters and liveaboards majority have cassettes and even if we all pumped into the canal at the same time it would still be a lot less mess than what's in there now. If it's very quiet how many boats pass by per day ? & if its a pump out dump surely some one would see who was doing it After all it's not an activity you can hide/disguise very well & even if they did it after dark they would still need lights & would make noise so the resident boaters would become aware I have no knowledge of who is dumping or what is being dumped in the cut but would suggest the culprit is perhaps more local than passing traffic Play the "nosey" neighbour & see,if you see who's dumping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewIC Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 1 hour ago, ditchcrawler said: There are hundreds of boats going through there at the moment all heading for Liverpool. They won't be getting very far, there's still a hole at Melling and a distinct lack of water beyond. I'd be surprised if there was anything much moving at Burscough, unless it was heading for Tarleton. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmr Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 7 minutes ago, AndrewIC said: They won't be getting very far, there's still a hole at Melling and a distinct lack of water beyond. I'd be surprised if there was anything much moving at Burscough, unless it was heading for Tarleton. Of course, I now understand. Hundreds of boats heading for Liverpool with a critically full tank and hoping to do a pumpout at the Liverpool marina. They all failed to answer the phone call from CaRT informing them of the breach. As they get to Burscough they see a load of S**t in the water and phone CaRT to report it. during the conversation they suddenly learn that the Liver Pool is closed. Oh well they think, there's already a load of S**t in the water here so a bit more won't make any difference. There is a process in summer that sometimes generates nasty brown frothy turd looking lumps on the surface of the water, can't remember the details. I wonder if the breach has totally stopped the natural flow of water through Burscough??? ..............Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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