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1 hour ago, Derek R. said:
1 hour ago, Derek R. said:

Those links were too much trouble to bother with. But from what I could see of this paddle steamer, it looked like a 1980's replica.

From the BBC:   The Oliver Cromwell was first built as a Dutch barge in 1922 and was converted to a riverboat hotel in 1993.

 

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32 minutes ago, AMModels said:

12 miles off South Stack is pretty deep water, wouldnt think she'd be any risk to anyone any more. Makes you wonder how it happened, who would be liable? towage company or the owners?

50 metres according to the BBC

 

Can't imagine that they'll dive on it to try to find out why it sank so suddenly......

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2 minutes ago, StephenA said:

50 metres according to the BBC

 

Can't imagine that they'll dive on it to try to find out why it sank so suddenly......

no, not worth the effort. Not been much of a swell last few days can only imagine some damage occurred and without pumps she was impossible to save.

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Always worth a giggle when all the PR bothered numpties have to mention " No polution was caused " :rolleyes: Just like the non polluting electric cars!! . When I was on the Thames a couple of days ago under the airport flightpath a plane using masses of fuel was taking off and landing every few seconds and thats just one airport out of thousands worldwide never mind industry etc etc etc etc etc still I suppose that one boat not polluting will make a huge difference. Keep on recycling everybody :huh:

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So built on what remained of a Dutch barge from 1922 - in 1993. Hardly a loss of an historic vessel. And the egg whisk of a "paddle" at the back would not have been its means of propulsion. Sorry to see any vessel lost at sea, but I don't think that one would have rated as historic, nor a paddle, or a steamer - never having been one. Now, if it had been the Kingswear Castle or the Waverley . . .

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I was once going to organise an outing staying on her on the G&S. One of the people who normally went on our outings refused to go, saying he worked on her and she had cast concrete on the base plate, he didn't specify the state of the base plate.

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She was an ugly boat from the outside, looked like a block of flats passing. The paddle at the back was decorative, I think there were twin screws underneath. She was however very nicely fitted inside, and her cruises on the Severn / G&S had many good reviews. She set fear into many a hire boat meeting her on a bend ?

 

I had heard (but it was at least secondhand) that when she stopped cruising and became a static hotel boat, the main reason was that an insurance inspection of the bilges would have been too difficult / expensive. That might tie up with the comment above about concrete on the baseplate.

 

I wonder if she'll be raised for scrap.

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40 minutes ago, Onewheeler said:

She was an ugly boat from the outside, looked like a block of flats passing. The paddle at the back was decorative, I think there were twin screws underneath. She was however very nicely fitted inside, and her cruises on the Severn / G&S had many good reviews. She set fear into many a hire boat meeting her on a bend ?

 

I had heard (but it was at least secondhand) that when she stopped cruising and became a static hotel boat, the main reason was that an insurance inspection of the bilges would have been too difficult / expensive. That might tie up with the comment above about concrete on the baseplate.

 

I wonder if she'll be raised for scrap.

I very much doubt that she will be raised for scrap. The cost of an salvage/lifting operation would be far more than the scrap value of the vessel.

 

Howard

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I'm sure they ticked all the right boxes* but I'm slightly astonished that anyone tried to tow the Oliver Cromwell at sea - she was ban enough to handle in a strong wind on the canal or river

 

*it wouldn't be the first time that all the right boxes have been ticked yet things have gone wrong

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I watched Chris Witts' YouTube video of the tow leaving Sharpness and thought then that it looked like a highly optimistic operation. Almost expected to hear that she'd been lost.

Sad end to someone's dream.

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3 hours ago, Rick-n-Jo said:

I watched Chris Witts' YouTube video of the tow leaving Sharpness and thought then that it looked like a highly optimistic operation. Almost expected to hear that she'd been lost.

Sad end to someone's dream.

I hadn't seen that until now. Here's the video for anyone who is interested:
 

 

I noticed at approx 7:50 minutes into the video Oliver Cromwell appears to hit into the dock before being dragged back into position. Not sure if it hit hard enough to potentially cause any damage. Thoughts?

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This is where we spent part of our honeymoon in Loughlin, Nevada.

 

Never any danger of this one sinking as it was actually a bricks & concrete hotel on the land!   We hadn't believed it when we were told to drive for 6 hours across the desert and then look for a hotel that seemed to be a paddle steamer.

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2 hours ago, RichM said:

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I noticed at approx 7:50 minutes into the video Oliver Cromwell appears to hit into the dock before being dragged back into position. Not sure if it hit hard enough to potentially cause any damage. Thoughts?

Not sure, but at 11.15 or so, on the relatively close up shot, it looks like water is being discharged from the port side.  

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3 hours ago, RichM said:

I hadn't seen that until now. Here's the video for anyone who is interested:

 

I noticed at approx 7:50 minutes into the video Oliver Cromwell appears to hit into the dock before being dragged back into position. Not sure if it hit hard enough to potentially cause any damage. Thoughts?

Certainly went down nose first.

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