Do new locks have names?

[magpie patrick]

In one of those moments when I was awake and really didn't want to get up or disturb the household I found myself idly listing all the staircase locks on the system in the hopes of dropping off again - major fail because I got to two of them and didn't know their names! The first was the new two rise on the Droitwich, which I simply christened "Droitwich" even though that could cover about 5 locks, the second was the one connecting the Savick Brook to the Lancaster Canal

 

These two, along with two more locks on the Droitwich and 5 or 6 more on the Ribble Link are totally new - they aren't restored or repositioned, and that led to me wondering whether they have names and indeed whether  the dozen or so new locks on restoration schemes generally have names. I'm aware that the  extra one on the Monty is Graham Palmer Lock, but beyond that I was clueless.

 

There aren't that many totally new locks on the system, most have been repositioned and have kept the old name/number (and there s probably not that many of those).

 

So counting locks trying to get to sleep led me to being awake wondering whether new locks had names - anyone want to help my insomnia by telling me?

 

PS - I'm not sure this is general boating but also not sure where else to put it!  

[David Mack]

Since the new locks on the Droitwich Junction Canal replace locks on the original lost line, aren't these just "repositioned"?

[magpie patrick]

I can see where you are coming from but they are on a new line several hundred yards from the previous route and their formation, which includes the two rise, bears no resemblance. If the old locks had a local geographical name (And I don't know that they did) it wouldn't readily transfer to these.

 

[magpie patrick]

Having just done a check in the Droitwich junction canal there is now one more lock than there was before the canals closed, so the four new locks are certainly not just relocated, there are four of them instead of three, they include a two rise and they lead to the river Salwarpe at a completely different location to the original connection!

 

I'll simplify the question - does the new two rise on the Droitwich have a name, and does the three rise on the Ribble Link have a name?

 

 

[Athy]

Does the new lock on the isolated section of the Ashby have a name?

 

If not, how about "Eric"?

[cuthound]

5 hours ago, Athy said:

Does the new lock on the isolated section of the Ashby have a name?

 

If not, how about "Eric"?

 

Moira, surely? ?

[Pagefield]

L&L Lock 38 deservedly named after Mike Clarke.   There's something special when a Lock etc. is named after a living person.

 

https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/news-and-views/news/canal-historian-honoured-with-lock-naming-ceremony

 

Meanwhile; unofficially, there's another bit of what may be called the L&L named after Mr Sid Mason''.

 

https://canalplan.org.uk/feature/286

 

Sid hasn't been on duty there much recently.  A bit like how Mr Barry Whitelock was transferred from the Bingley 5.

 

I'm proud to say that I've been along Sid's Ditch with the eponymous Sid at my side.

[WotEver]

1 hour ago, cuthound said:

 

Moira, surely? ?

I prefer Eric

[Tim Lewis]

The new lock built on the river lea for the olympics has had two names already despite not yet ten years old.It’s original name was Prescott Lock but is now named Three Mills Lock!

[WotEver]

Just now, Tim Lewis said:

It’s original name was Prescott Lock but is now named Three Mills Lock!

Not Two-Jags lock?

[Up-Side-Down]

There's also a brand new staircase lock in the Union Canal above the Falkirk Wheel to add to your list.

[rgreg]

I've never heard of any names for the Ribble Link locks. 

[Iain_S]

15 hours ago, Up-Side-Down said:

There's also a brand new staircase lock in the Union Canal above the Falkirk Wheel to add to your list.

Does it have a name? (Apart from "the staircase" !  )

[Fender151]

My lock has a name, I called it Paddy!

[Captain Pegg]

On 27/05/2018 at 14:06, magpie patrick said:

Having just done a check in the Droitwich junction canal there is now one more lock than there was before the canals closed, so the four new locks are certainly not just relocated, there are four of them instead of three, they include a two rise and they lead to the river Salwarpe at a completely different location to the original connection!

 

I'll simplify the question - does the new two rise on the Droitwich have a name, and does the three rise on the Ribble Link have a name?

 

 

The new locks on the Droitwich Junction are Staircase, Donut and Hanbury Road in descending order. At least they are to me anyway.

 

JP

[magpie patrick]

7 hours ago, Captain Pegg said:

The new locks on the Droitwich Junction are Staircase, Donut and Hanbury Road in descending order. At least they are to me anyway.

 

JP

Okay, Why Donut? 

 

Will I wish I hadn't asked?

[Captain Pegg]

5 hours ago, magpie patrick said:

Okay, Why Donut? 

 

Will I wish I hadn't asked?

Because we have a family tradition of doing a donut in the winding hole above the lock while it is being prepared.

Edited May 29, 2018 by Captain Pegg

[billS]

On ‎27‎/‎05‎/‎2018 at 20:40, Pagefield said:

L&L Lock 38 deservedly named after Mike Clarke.   There's something special when a Lock etc. is named after a living person.

 

 

I dunno. An overheard conversation could lead to all sorts of misunderstandings...

 

"Mike Clark is leaking"

"Mike Clark has collapsed"

 

or even more of a concern...

 

"Mike Clark's bottom was sticking"

"Mike Clark's bottom is open"

"I'm just entering Mike Clark"

 

 

[Pluto]

I do try to have my bottom open before it starts leaking…

[Heartland]

Oh dear,

 

Do locks need to have names ? They can have numbers, but then perhaps not even that. I do not recall any numbers given to the locks on the Foxyards Canal.

[Athy]

Do you realise what a mass stampede to The Search Engines Of Our Choice you have just started?

(Except, no doubt, for the occasional member who sat smugly saying "Ah yes, four locks and three branches as any fule kno").

[Up-Side-Down]

On 28/05/2018 at 13:29, Iain_S said:

Does it have a name? (Apart from "the staircase" !  )

According to the (out of print) Nicholson Scottish Guide, Book 8, the staircase lock above the Falkirk Wheel is listed as Locks 1 and 2. It seems slightly contradictory, however, that the first (and newly constructed) lock on the Union Canal, linking it to the Forth & Clyde Canal, is called Golden Jubilee Lock 3. I would expect the locks to number 1 – 3 starting from the the junction with the F&C, with the numbering increasing in the direction of the terminus in Edinburgh.

[Iain_S]

As would I!

Not sure how the original 11 locks were numbered, though.

[Waterway2go]

7 hours ago, Up-Side-Down said:

I would expect the locks to number 1 – 3 starting from the the junction with the F&C, with the numbering increasing in the direction of the terminus in Edinburgh.

Could they be numbered on the principle of starting at the Capital City and counting away from there?

[Richard Fairhurst]

I've heard Moira Lock, certainly. The Droitwich Junction locks don't have any signs up, but CRT's asset registry appears to call them Staircase Top/Bottom, Body Brook Lock, and River Lock.

 

Prince's Lock and Mann Island Lock on the Liverpool Link appear to be formal names. Pomona Lock on the MSC is newish.

 

There's Black Sluice Lock in Boston, too (but is that a restoration?), and the new lock near Denver onto the Flood Relief Channel...