Dunworkin Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 We are looking to buy our first boat.....loads of brokers to choose from. Any thoughts on the ones to choose and avoid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Cal Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 Find the right boat for you. Don t worry too much about the broker. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunworkin Posted May 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Dog Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 (edited) From experience: ABNB; Anecdotally: Rugby (other good brokers are available, some others will be recommended shortly). Frankly, unless you're quite savvy and know boats, I'd say you should worry quite a lot about the broker! Edited May 16, 2018 by Sea Dog Incomplete post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 I'm not sure that you need to worry about a good or bad broker. What does a 'bad' broker do that a 'good' broker doesn't, or vice-versa ? The main think a 'bad' broker can do is mislead you or misrepresent the boat, but : a) You can see for yourself what the boat is like and what equipment it has. b ) You will no doubt be having a survey undertaken to give independent confirmation of the condition of the Hull, engine etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickent Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 Purchased our boat through Sawley Marina. Smooth and pleasant process with helpful staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray T Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 If a broker is selling a boat find out if the broker is acting for a third party or actually owns the boat. Also ask if they have a dedicated customer account for funds whilst the sale is taking place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 11 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said: b ) You will no doubt be having a survey undertaken to give independent confirmation of the condition of the Hull, engine etc. Take this to heart! Actually, a marine surveyor does not usually test the engine, but he will certainly test the hull. He may also check safety features such as gas installation, fire extinguishers and the like - you can get various levels of inspection depending on how much you pay him. Test the engine yourself by running it: does it start easily? (ggod). Does it run regularly? (ggod). Is it very smoky? (bad). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmelly Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Dunworkin said: We are looking to buy our first boat.....loads of brokers to choose from. Any thoughts on the ones to choose and avoid? My present boat is a great boat. I happened to be with just about the worst brokerage in the known universe but I bought the boat despite the broker. The broker is nowt to do with the boat just like an estate agent they know how to smile whilst taking your money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty40s Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 3 hours ago, Athy said: Take this to heart! Actually, a marine surveyor does not usually test the engine, but he will certainly test the hull. He may also check safety features such as gas installation, fire extinguishers and the like - you can get various levels of inspection depending on how much you pay him. Trevor Whitling, Craig Allen, Ian Jennings and Chris Williams all run the engines as part of their boat surveys......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickent Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 . 2 hours ago, matty40s said: Trevor Whitling, Craig Allen, Ian Jennings and Chris Williams all run the engines as part of their boat surveys......... Steve Hands also runs the engine as part of a full survey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 Any fool can run an engine. I wonder how many surveyors properly examine a boat by undertaking even the most basic 'dismantling'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Dog Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 13 hours ago, mrsmelly said: My present boat is a great boat. I happened to be with just about the worst brokerage in the known universe but I bought the boat despite the broker. The broker is nowt to do with the boat just like an estate agent they know how to smile whilst taking your money. Tim, you're quite savvy and know boats, and there I'd agree that the broker makes little difference. However, if Joe Public with little (possibly no) idea turned up to buy a boat, there are brokers that would "stuff one up them", possibly with a boat they actually own but don't admit to so as to deprive them of their rights. A good surveyor acting for the buyer is the best mitigation in this circumstance, but these brokers might best be avoided by the uninitiated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 27 minutes ago, Sea Dog said: Tim, you're quite savvy and know boats, and there I'd agree that the broker makes little difference. However, if Joe Public with little (possibly no) idea turned up to buy a boat, there are brokers that would "stuff one up them", possibly with a boat they actually own but don't admit to so as to deprive them of their rights. A good surveyor acting for the buyer is the best mitigation in this circumstance, but these brokers might best be avoided by the uninitiated. I see where you are coming from, but Shirley a 'good' surveyor (there is another question - which one ?) acting for the buyer would help minimise / avoid the risk of them having one "stuffed up them". The boat is more important than the broker. Pay cash and take the boat away with you and you don't even run the risk of losing your money if the broker does a runner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmelly Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 36 minutes ago, Sea Dog said: Tim, you're quite savvy and know boats, and there I'd agree that the broker makes little difference. However, if Joe Public with little (possibly no) idea turned up to buy a boat, there are brokers that would "stuff one up them", possibly with a boat they actually own but don't admit to so as to deprive them of their rights. A good surveyor acting for the buyer is the best mitigation in this circumstance, but these brokers might best be avoided by the uninitiated. I agree but in my last and present boat purchase if I hadnt used that broker I wouldnt have bought a bloomin great boat. It wasnt the broker starting with a W either There is a worse one out there at least!! I arnt saying not to be careful or even if you want to have a survey all I am saying is a bloody good boat may well be for sale with a crap broker and will still be a good boat to buy innitt so you have to check every broker realy to find the boat that is out there for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boat&Bikes Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 I fins the majority of businesses that I deal with lacking in many ways. Be that customer service, product knowledge or downright crookedness. This seems to apply right from your corner shop to big business. I expect no better from boat brokers. Find your boat then tread carefully when dealing with the broker and surveyer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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