Momac Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 Is a helm on the port side more common than the starboard side and if so is there any reason to explain it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jocave Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 http://www.bridgehousemarina.co.uk/boatmoreinfo.asp?BoatIDParam=12 Another one there for you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul HD Posted May 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, jocave said: http://www.bridgehousemarina.co.uk/boatmoreinfo.asp?BoatIDParam=12 Another one there for you... Thank you jocave. That first picture looks amazing, very tidy looking boat. Looking very closely at this boat I have just realised that you lose the outdoor seating behind helmsman chair. I love the profile look of this style but I must have seating in the outdoor area. So I think it will have to be a rear cockpit style Edited May 16, 2018 by Paul HD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 18 hours ago, David Mack said: I would prefer something like this: How would the horse respond to that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 13 minutes ago, WotEver said: How would the horse respond to that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 It’s Mr Ed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dccruiser Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 21 hours ago, MartynG said: Is a helm on the port side more common than the starboard side and if so is there any reason to explain it? Its the side you pass other boats on .... port to port, so particularly on a narrow section you know if you have space to pass an oncoming boat ... used to be a sailing thing to avoid collisions ... red to red go straight ahead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul HD Posted May 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 On 15/05/2018 at 09:50, sal garfi said: I have a Norman 22 (with outboard), and I'm very pleased with her. We're even going to take her on a considerrable journey in September: from Sawley to Maesbury Marsh (via the Trent & Mersey, the Staffs & Worcester, the Shroppie, and then the Llangollen to the Monty) to what will be her new home. Anyway, the slightly larger Norman 23 can be found for sale relatively often. They are venerable and robust! Hi, I must say I like the look of the Norman. I am going to keep a look out for a Norman 23 or 24. Many thanks Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sal garfi Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 Yes, Normans, like Nauticuses and Freemans, have a nice retro look, though the latter two are far classier. Saying that, there's another retro boat that's also quite fine. It has a sliding canopy and there's someone here on the forum who has one. I can't recall what it is but it's a really pukka boat. There used to be one on my jetty at Sawley called 'Galadriel'. A very nice boat indeed. By the way, there are also old style Norman 27s and 32s, with central cockpits, and they're very nice - quite! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Cal Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 If you are looking for canal use watch the beam. Some of the Freemans were a shade over 7ft wide which will be no good for canal use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dccruiser Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 2 hours ago, sal garfi said: Yes, Normans, like Nauticuses and Freemans, have a nice retro look, though the latter two are far classier. Saying that, there's another retro boat that's also quite fine. It has a sliding canopy and there's someone here on the forum who has one. I can't recall what it is but it's a really pukka boat. There used to be one on my jetty at Sawley called 'Galadriel'. A very nice boat indeed. By the way, there are also old style Norman 27s and 32s, with central cockpits, and they're very nice - quite! The trentcrafts have a sliding canopy with remote steering in the front cabin, the nauticus is a very well made boat, the hull moulds were used to make the earlier vikings ... the other well made and vastly popular cruisers are the dawncrafts , which can be bought for very reasonable money. Rick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul HD Posted May 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2018 21 hours ago, sal garfi said: Yes, Normans, like Nauticuses and Freemans, have a nice retro look, though the latter two are far classier. Saying that, there's another retro boat that's also quite fine. It has a sliding canopy and there's someone here on the forum who has one. I can't recall what it is but it's a really pukka boat. There used to be one on my jetty at Sawley called 'Galadriel'. A very nice boat indeed. By the way, there are also old style Norman 27s and 32s, with central cockpits, and they're very nice - quite! Thanks sal Garfi, The Nauticus looks great. 21 hours ago, Naughty Cal said: If you are looking for canal use watch the beam. Some of the Freemans were a shade over 7ft wide which will be no good for canal use. It will be for canal use, so that is good to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momac Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 On 17/05/2018 at 17:35, dccruiser said: Its the side you pass other boats on .... port to port, so particularly on a narrow section you know if you have space to pass an oncoming boat ... used to be a sailing thing to avoid collisions ... red to red go straight ahead Yes. But I think historically Starboard comes from the words Steering Board and the steering board was always on the right...... before my time of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, MartynG said: Steering Board and the steering board was always on the right...... before my time of course. Really ? C'mon tell the truth now !! From the Bayeux Tapestry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul HD Posted May 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2018 I made an enquiry on a Nauticus that was up for sale. Unfortunately it has already been sold. These things don't hang around too long. Anyway. Does anyone here own or have owned a Classic 27 Stourport? Would be good to hear your views. Many Thanks Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted May 21, 2018 Report Share Posted May 21, 2018 On 20/05/2018 at 13:14, Alan de Enfield said: Really ? C'mon tell the truth now !! From the Bayeux Tapestry But that is Jonny Foreigner isn't it. they even drive on the wrong side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain_S Posted May 21, 2018 Report Share Posted May 21, 2018 On 20/05/2018 at 13:10, MartynG said: Yes. But I think historically Starboard comes from the words Steering Board and the steering board was always on the right...... before my time of course. The steering oar was on the right, as most people are right handed. From Norse, steyrbord via old English steorbord to Starboard, "bord" being the side of the ship. "Port" was originally "Larboard", from Norse hladabord to ladeboard, being the side the ship was loaded from. With the steering oar on the right hand side, the left side was put alongside a quay to avoid an expensive crunch as the steering oar was wiped out. "Port" was adopted in 1844 in the Royal Navy, followed by the U.S. in 1846, as "Larboard" sounded too similar to "starboard". The term larboard was still used for several years after that in merchant fleets. In Europe, "Backboard" (German "Backbord, French "Bâbord") was used, derived from Norse Bakbord, which was the side to which the steerer originally had his back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBiscuits Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 On 21/05/2018 at 21:06, Paul HD said: I made an enquiry on a Nauticus that was up for sale. Unfortunately it has already been sold. These things don't hang around too long. Well your timing is good - I have just put mine up for sale! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul HD Posted May 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 4 hours ago, TheBiscuits said: Well your timing is good - I have just put mine up for sale! Hi Pete, I have been in email contact with you today. I spoke to Tony. I will contact you on email. All the best, Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the blind novice Posted May 26, 2018 Report Share Posted May 26, 2018 On 14/05/2018 at 08:52, Neil2 said: Given that there must be a lot of (narrow) grp cruisers still about, and that they are still being made, it begs the question where are they all? We average about 500 hours a year cruising all over the network and I have seen maybe half a dozen grp cruisers in the last year. They can't all have moved to the Lancaster canal. They may have run out of petrol as no one seems to know where to find it on the rivers and canals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul HD Posted May 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2018 On 15/05/2018 at 09:50, sal garfi said: I have a Norman 22 (with outboard), and I'm very pleased with her. Hi, What size and make of outboard do you use? Cheers, Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sal garfi Posted May 29, 2018 Report Share Posted May 29, 2018 Howdy, Mine's a 15HP Mercury, but 10 HP would do quite nicely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul HD Posted May 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2018 4 hours ago, sal garfi said: Howdy, Mine's a 15HP Mercury, but 10 HP would do quite nicely! Thanks, that is good to know. I have set my heart on a Nauticus 27 but I think I will have to have an outboard for peaceful cruising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sal garfi Posted May 29, 2018 Report Share Posted May 29, 2018 I don't think Nauticus 27s come with outboards, but Nauticus 22s do. Some people will question whether an outboard will give you 'peaceful' cruising. The preference, for reasons of safety and utility, will normally be an inboard diesel. However, people do do long distance cruises with outboards, it's just a matter of planning before hand (using the internet) to find the petrol stations closest to the cut. Also, the Pearson guides show petrol stations close to the cut. And when getting petrol you'll need good jerrycans (10 ltrs) and a good trolley! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul HD Posted May 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2018 Correct. The 22 had an outboard. I have read that there are a few 27s with outboard but I suppose they were added by the owners. I will be viewing another diesel inboard and petrol inboard next weekend if they are still available. Maybe they will be quieter than the one I have seen?? If not, it has to be an outboard. Would be great to hear from any other Nauticus owners that may have gone with an outboard on a 27. Cheers Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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