Can you barge your way onto the housing ladder ?

[Alan de Enfield]

A financial Times weekend article - well balanced and really does look at the costs and requirements in some depth.

 

https://www.ft.com/content/775eb700-3bd4-11e8-b9f9-de94fa33a81e

[Athy]

Sounds interesting, but unfortunately it looks as if one has to subscribe to the F.T. in order to read it.

[Alan de Enfield]

2 minutes ago, Athy said:

Sounds interesting, but unfortunately it looks as if one has to subscribe to the F.T. in order to read it.

Some quotes from those interviewed :

 

"Some of the worst problems are even less palatable than broken composting loos".

 

"Mr James says he spent about £1,500 just on maintenance in the first year".

 

"......my costs won’t be that different from what I pay now to live in north London".

 

"The number of boats in the capital rose from 2,330 in March 2012 to 4,000 in March 2017".

 

"the trust is cracking down on boaters who flout the rules by lingering too long in one place"

 

"Residential mooring permits are expensive, particularly in London."

 

"Recently, a (MOORING) spot on the coveted Broadway Market stretch sold for £12,500"

[Lily Rose]

4 hours ago, Athy said:

Sounds interesting, but unfortunately it looks as if one has to subscribe to the F.T. in order to read it.

Monevator Weekend Reading (last weekend's edition: http://monevator.com/weekend-reading-are-buy-to-let-landlords-terrible-people/) usually includes several Google links to FT articles. Apparently linking to Google, rather than directly to the FT, allows you to see the full article without a subscription. I don't know why this works but it does seem to whenever I try it.

 

I just put the words   barge housing ladder   into Bing, rather than Google, and then followed the first link and this has opened up the full article for me.

 

I haven't read it yet, will do later, but I did hear the author of the article discussing it on the FT Money podcast a few weeks ago and felt that it sounded much more sensible and realistic than I was expecting.

 

[Graham Davis]

I put thos words into Goggle and got a link to their readable page.

Interesting article that does show both sides of the story, but I expect some will ignore it.

[Bee]

I should think it is possible, buy a shell, fit it out, sell it, repeat, etc. But, more difficult than years ago and you really must grow into a very handy person indeed, that is important and to be honest I think you must really like boats and absorb a lot of knowledge or you will end up living in a worthless project for ever. It will not be quick either and you will not be living on expensive moorings whilst you do it. That's what I did anyway but everything is more difficult now. And the music was better then, and so was the beer, and the weather was better, and you could tell the difference between men and women and tomatoes tasted better, grumble grumble.

[WotEver]

20 hours ago, Bee said:

...and tomatoes tasted better...

... as did strawberries, apples, pears, nectarines, potatoes, sprouts and cabbage. 

Edited June 10, 2018 by WotEver
Spillung

[Dr Bob]

24 minutes ago, WotEver said:

... as did strawberries, apples, pears, nectarines, potatoes, sprouts and cabbage. 

Dont bother with the sprouts. Buy an ecofan.?

[Alan de Enfield]

5 minutes ago, Dr Bob said:

Dont bother with the sprouts. Buy an ecofan.?

You are stirring it again !!

[Dr Bob]

1 hour ago, Alan de Enfield said:

You are stirring it again !!

I'm getting ecofan withdrawls symptoms. Ours has not been going round for a month now.

[cuthound]

6 hours ago, WotEver said:

... as did strawberries, apples, pears, nectarines, potatoes, sprouts and cabbage. 

 

Sounds like your taste buds are sulphated.  Time for new ones?

[Guest]

On 02/05/2018 at 11:03, Alan de Enfield said:

Some quotes from those interviewed :

 

"Some of the worst problems are even less palatable than broken composting loos".

 

"Mr James says he spent about £1,500 just on maintenance in the first year".

 

"......my costs won’t be that different from what I pay now to live in north London".

 

"The number of boats in the capital rose from 2,330 in March 2012 to 4,000 in March 2017".

 

"the trust is cracking down on boaters who flout the rules by lingering too long in one place"

 

"Residential mooring permits are expensive, particularly in London."

 

"Recently, a (MOORING) spot on the coveted Broadway Market stretch sold for £12,500"

How do you break a composting loo??

 

[WotEver]

1 hour ago, cuthound said:

 

Sounds like your taste buds are sulphated.  Time for new ones?

Nahh... buy a nectarine from the supermarket. It’s hard and has a label saying ‘ripen at home’. So you wait, and you wait, then suddenly one day it’s soft. By the time you’ve grabbed a plate it’s gone soggy and mouldy. 

[Dr Bob]

43 minutes ago, welly said:

How do you break a composting loo??

 

 

On 02/05/2018 at 11:03, Alan de Enfield said:

 

 

"the trust is cracking down on boaters who flout the rules by lingering too long in one place"

 

Well that's obvious. Even the CRT know. Don't sit on it too long!

[Machpoint005]

12 hours ago, WotEver said:

Nahh... buy a nectarine from the supermarket. It’s hard and has a label saying ‘ripen at home’. So you wait, and you wait, then suddenly one day it’s soft. By the time you’ve grabbed a plate it’s gone soggy and mouldy. 

"Ripen at home" means "unripe". How can it mean anything else?

I imagine Bill Morrison wouldn't sell many if they were labelled as such, though.

[Dave_P]

"Recently, a spot on the coveted Broadway Market stretch sold for £12,500, more than the cost of some of the barges floating there. "

 

What this doesn't make clear is that the £12,500 is an annual charge.

[Alan de Enfield]

33 minutes ago, Dave_P said:

"Recently, a spot on the coveted Broadway Market stretch sold for £12,500, more than the cost of some of the barges floating there. "

 

What this doesn't make clear is that the £12,500 is an annual charge.

They were just bullet points of a very long FT article that folks didn't want to subscribe to, to read.

[BruceinSanity]

14 hours ago, cuthound said:

 

Sounds like your taste buds are sulphated.  Time for new ones?

It is the case that as you get older, your tastebuds stop renewing themselves so much, so your taste experience loses subtlety. The upside to this is that cheap wine now tastes as good as the £10 a bottle stuff.

[Dave_P]

6 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:

They were just bullet points of a very long FT article that folks didn't want to subscribe to, to read.

I was quoting the article, not the bullet points. the article is not clear.

Edited June 11, 2018 by Dave_P

[WotEver]

33 minutes ago, BruceinSanity said:

The upside to this is that cheap wine now tastes as good as the £10 a bottle stuff.

It always did though

 

 

Edited June 11, 2018 by WotEver

[Alan de Enfield]

1 hour ago, Dave_P said:

I was quoting the article, not the bullet points. the article is not clear.

 

Fair comment - I had not re-read the article so, yes, agreed, it could be more explicit.

[canals are us?]

On ‎10‎/‎06‎/‎2018 at 16:32, Dr Bob said:

I'm getting ecofan withdrawls symptoms. Ours has not been going round for a month now.

 

Get some sprouts or baked beans!

 

James.