MtB Posted June 30, 2019 Report Share Posted June 30, 2019 5 hours ago, canalboat said: Somebody just said it is now stuck. Does that mean the canal is closed - does anybody know the latest. I suspect this is just semantics. Ys it is stuck, because it can't pass through the bridge. It strikes me there are three possibilities: 1) They reverse to a winding hole then go back to where it was pt in for a lift out and lorry past the bridges 2) They wait for CRT to widen the two bridges so the can get through 3) They stay were they are in perpetuity Option 2) seems unlikely, despite CRT (do we KNOW it was CRT?) have had a half-hearted go at the first bridge already. Option 3 seems unlikely as it is in the way. So we are just waiting for them to come to terms with doing 1), I imagine. Probably quite a lot of behind-the-scenes squabbling going on about who pays IO would imagine, which could be another cause of the delay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenataomm Posted June 30, 2019 Report Share Posted June 30, 2019 It won't be long before we'll be able to check on it via Google Earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRLMK38 Posted July 1, 2019 Report Share Posted July 1, 2019 It was passable on Saturday when we went through at lunchtime. The latest chapter of the story is that one of the hotel boats (a regular between Napton and Warwick) could not get through the bridge. According to the Skipper they have never had a problem getting through before (12'6" widebeam). As a result they had to turnaround and take their guests to Wigrams Turn rather than Warwick. He wasn't sure if this was anything that CRT had done recently that caused the issue or longer term bridge subsidence problem. The saga continues... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray T Posted July 1, 2019 Report Share Posted July 1, 2019 That would be Tranquil Rose, passed through Braunston on Friday I believe, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRLMK38 Posted July 1, 2019 Report Share Posted July 1, 2019 59 minutes ago, Ray T said: That would be Tranquil Rose, passed through Braunston on Friday I believe, That's the one... a friendly bunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up-Side-Down Posted July 1, 2019 Report Share Posted July 1, 2019 On 30/06/2019 at 17:03, Clodi said: Has anyone actually spoken to the people onboard the boat & got the real story? I had someone pop down to the fat boat half an hour ago and they reported that there was no-one aboard to ask. We will maybe repeat the exercise in a day or so! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frangar Posted July 1, 2019 Report Share Posted July 1, 2019 5 minutes ago, Up-Side-Down said: I had someone pop down to the fat boat half an hour ago and they reported that there was no-one aboard to ask. We will maybe repeat the exercise in a day or so! Take a tape measure...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up-Side-Down Posted July 1, 2019 Report Share Posted July 1, 2019 13 minutes ago, frangar said: Take a tape measure...... Good thinking ...... (and not one of those metric ones either given that canals were built to imperial measurements!) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted July 1, 2019 Report Share Posted July 1, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, frangar said: Take a tape measure...... How do you measure the beam of a boat with just a tape measure? Edited July 1, 2019 by Mike the Boilerman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Bob Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 8 hours ago, Mike the Boilerman said: How do you measure the beam of a boat with just a tape measure? Trade it in for a pukka wide beam boat measuring thingy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frangar Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 8 hours ago, Mike the Boilerman said: How do you measure the beam of a boat with just a tape measure? Did you miss the “Tape measure usage in different situations” module at tradesman college?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, frangar said: Did you miss the “Tape measure usage in different situations” module at tradesman college?? Is that where you use an 'apple-John' (or was it a 'Plum-Bob') ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up-Side-Down Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 9 hours ago, Mike the Boilerman said: How do you measure the beam of a boat with just a tape measure? You simply measure an adjacent bridge hole it won't fit through and add a bit ............. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 47 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said: Is that where you use an 'apple-John' (or was it a 'Plum-Bob') ? He didn't mention taking a plumb bob. Just a tape measure, which is why I asked! It is a recurring trope on here that you can measure the width of a boat in the water with a tape measure. I hold it cannot be done with the degree of accuracy needed to know if tight bridge holes, locks etc will fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frangar Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mike the Boilerman said: He didn't mention taking a plumb bob. Just a tape measure, which is why I asked! Do you take all posts on here quite so literally?? I credited you with more sense than that...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 8 minutes ago, Mike the Boilerman said: He didn't mention taking a plumb bob. Just a tape measure, which is why I asked! It is a recurring trope on here that you can measure the width of a boat in the water with a tape measure. I hold it cannot be done with the degree of accuracy needed to know if tight bridge holes, locks etc will fit. I've never tried, but how about this? Measure bridge 'ole. Place boat in bridge 'ole, hard against one side. Measure gap between boat and other side. Subtract one from t'other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Athy said: I've never tried, but how about this? Measure bridge 'ole. Place boat in bridge 'ole, hard against one side. Measure gap between boat and other side. Subtract one from t'other. You're not following this at all are you Mike! 1) The boat concerned does not below to any of us, so moving it into the bridge 'ole is not really practical. 2) The restriction in the bridge 'ole preventing the boat passing is some way below water level. 3) There is some debate about the fouling one one side of the boat being cause by lack of air draft causing the superstructure to meet the brisge deck, and on the other side the fouling is below the water line. Fat lot of good a tape measure is gonna be here! Edited July 2, 2019 by Mike the Boilerman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Mike the Boilerman said: The restriction in the bridge 'ole preventing the boat passing is some way below water level. Then why did they remove the coping stones ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 Just now, Mike the Boilerman said: You're not following this at all are you Mike! 1) The boat concerned does not below to any of us 2) The restriction in the bridge 'ole preventing the boat passing is some way below water level. Yes, I am. Your question in post no. 634 appeared to refer to boats in general, not to any specific one. So there was no "boat concerned"; I can't see, either, how its ownership would affect how it could be measured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Alan de Enfield said: Then why did they remove the coping stones ? Another poster who clearly has not been there and had a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mike the Boilerman said: Another poster who clearly has not been there and had a look. No I haven't but didn't "someone" post pictures here to show bridge hole coping stones piled up on the tow path ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidg Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 35 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said: Then why did they remove the coping stones ? Because an “engineer” came, took a look and instructed CRT operatives to do so. I put engineer in quotes as that is who one of the CRT operatives involved told me was coming. Of course the quotes could be taken to imply another meaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 44 minutes ago, davidg said: Because an “engineer” came, took a look and instructed CRT operatives to do so. I put engineer in quotes as that is who one of the CRT operatives involved told me was coming. Of course the quotes could be taken to imply another meaning. Were they "Engineering" bricks they removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Vectis Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 Yes, 'Tranquil Rose' was in Wigrams Turn Marina yesterday. That fat monstrosity was still parked on the Warwick side of the bridge when we came through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, ditchcrawler said: Were they "Engineering" bricks they removed ? No, they are proper stones, crafted into shape and probably 200 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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