peterboat Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, blackrose said: 7 years ago, full length of the K&A from Reading to Bristol and then Sharpness to Gloucester on the G&S. Here is a picture from a few years ago cratch now gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob-M Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 Plenty of room for a widebeam on the G&S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackrose Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 10 hours ago, alan_fincher said: Mike will no doubt tell you that it went a largish way up the GU, at least once. What that doesn't recognise though is that when it did wide beams of this type of dimension were pretty unusual on the GU, so he wouldn't have been passing one moored one after another, or trying to pass ones coming the other way. Yes the last time my boat was on the GU was at least 10 years ago. I do recognise things have changed but even then I went though popular places such as Marsworth where narrowboats were inconsiderately moored two abrest on both sides which fortunately didn't cause me any problems, but I saw other narrowboats trying to pass each other at that point and having some issues. I've seen the same thing on narrow canals too. As I've said before, I think there's probably more congestion caused by narrowboats than widebeams but it just doesn't register with a lot of narrowboaters. On the other hand when they see a widebeam causing an obstruction they're spitting feathers. I dare say some boaters in small plastic cruisers detest narrowboats for the same reason. We tend to focus our anger on those who we perceive as causing the problem, but our perceptions may not be based on fact. 7 minutes ago, peterboat said: Here is a picture from a few years ago cratch now gone That's not my boat by the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterboat Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 25 minutes ago, blackrose said: Yes the last time my boat was on the GU was at least 10 years ago. I do recognise things have changed but even then I went though popular places such as Marsworth where narrowboats were inconsiderately moored two abrest on both sides which fortunately didn't cause me any problems, but I saw other narrowboats trying to pass each other at that point and having some issues. I've seen the same thing on narrow canals too. As I've said before, I think there's probably more congestion caused by narrowboats than widebeams but it just doesn't register with a lot of narrowboaters. On the other hand when they see a widebeam causing an obstruction they're spitting feathers. I dare say some boaters in small plastic cruisers detest narrowboats for the same reason. We tend to focus our anger on those who we perceive as causing the problem, but our perceptions may not be based on fact. That's not my boat by the way I know its my boat note the wheelhouse! you wanted a picture of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackrose Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 37 minutes ago, peterboat said: I know its my boat note the wheelhouse! you wanted a picture of it Did I? I have a vague memory of a conversation but it must have been some time ago. Thanks anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 12 hours ago, Athy said: Some also have a sense of humour. Well I'd say that nice Mr Lyons certainly has.... Judging by his boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumshie Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 12 hours ago, Trevor Lyons said: I've only recently discovered this forum. David John, who produces the excellent "CruisingTheCut" Vlogs alerted me to it: What’s the narrowboat forum you mention sometimes in your videos?The forum I gained most of my info from is canalworld.net. It’s got loads of very expert people who chip in but the only thing you have to watch is that sometimes the discussions veer (quickly) wildly off on a tangent, which is unhelpful, or occasionally descend into vitriolic arguments. If you can wade your way through that occasional treacle, it’s good stuff. However, it seems that forum members just can't prevent themselves from calling other peoples boats "pug ugly" or worse, or saying "I don't want to offend" when in reality that's precisely what they want. So, while I'll visit this forum and "wade through the treacle" and "vitriol" to get news and information, in future I'll keep my contributions to a minimum. It's not a question of being thin-skinned (I've a hide like a rhino); I just think that grown-up canal boaters should behave more maturely and treat each other with more respect. If David from Cruising The Cut was kind enough to take the time to answer your question then I don't think it was particularly polite or mature to then use him and his reply to you as a tool to score points on this forum, where he is also a member. Poor show really. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drayke Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 We have a wide beam 11’ wide and have in the last two years travelled the length of the K&A several times, and have just returned from a trip up the GU all the way up to Bordesley (Camps Hill) never had any troubles passing any other wide beams, lots of them. We did find the antics of some narrowboaters quite amusing as they passed wide beams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackrose Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 Yes I never had any trouble on my way along the K&A on my 12ft widebeam despite running into the Easter bank holiday weekend at the western end. All the chaos was caused by hire boaters on narrowboats. I was glad to leave them behind when I got onto the Avon down to Bristol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 4 hours ago, blackrose said: All the chaos was caused by hire boaters on narrowboats. I bet the hire boaters held a different opinion about what was causing the chaos as you went through on your 12ft widebeam!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Lyons Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, Tumshie said: If David from Cruising The Cut was kind enough to take the time to answer your question then I don't think it was particularly polite or mature to then use him and his reply to you as a tool to score points on this forum, where he is also a member. Poor show really. David did not "take the time to answer (my) question ". The quotation was from David's FAQ page, and I can't see how it could be impolite or immature to quote him. So not a "poor show" at all. Edited October 12, 2019 by Trevor Lyons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bagginz Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 (edited) I find the utilitarian design of many modern widebeam canal boats pretty grim from an aesthetic point of view. Though there are exceptions such as Tranquil Rose: A nicely maintained Tjalk can be a thing of stunning beauty - wide though they may be. I also find many modern Dutch Barge designs pleasing to the eye. Edited October 12, 2019 by bagginz 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 (edited) On 11/10/2019 at 10:37, Trevor Lyons said: What’s the narrowboat forum you mention sometimes in your videos?The forum I gained most of my info from is canalworld.net. It’s got loads of very expert people who chip in but the only thing you have to watch is that sometimes the discussions veer (quickly) wildly off on a tangent, which is unhelpful, or occasionally descend into vitriolic arguments. If you can wade your way through that occasional treacle, it’s good stuff. That is how this forum works David. Edited October 12, 2019 by rusty69 changed a to this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty40s Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 15 minutes ago, rusty69 said: That is how most forums work David. Corrected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 18 minutes ago, matty40s said: Corrected Thanks.That is much better than my original,or indeed my edit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray T Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 4 hours ago, bagginz said: I find the utilitarian design of many modern widebeam canal boats pretty grim from an aesthetic point of view. Though there are exceptions such as Tranquil Rose: When ever I have met Tranquil Rose crew they have always been very polite and above all they know how to handle a wide boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenA Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 There's a small nest of them on the T&M north of Middlewich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumshie Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 6 hours ago, Trevor Lyons said: David did not "take the time to answer (my) question ". The quotation was from David's FAQ page, and I can't see how it could be impolite or immature to quote him. So not a "poor show" at all. Actually it is poor show - you quoted a well known YouTube personality with out his permission in order to give yourself more credibility because you feel you and your boat haven't been given the credibility and respect that you think you should have been; you have embroiled David in this childish point scoring spat that he probably would not want to be involved in. This forum and the narrowboat community is small and tight knit, you didn't quote some far flung celebrity you quoted someone from our forum and our community, where he is known on a human level. Though I can quite believe that you yourself wouldn't see it as impolite or childish that doesn't mean that it wasn't. 6 hours ago, rusty69 said: That is how this forum works David. Do you think he talking about us. We can be terribly unhelpful (sometimes). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, Tumshie said: Do you think he talking about us. We can be terribly unhelpful (sometimes). Definitely you, yes, your'e a trouble maker! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumshie Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, rusty69 said: Definitely you, yes, your'e a trouble maker! Where there's Bogle there's usually a Beagle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Tumshie said: Where there's Bogle there's usually a Beagle Wow, I didn't know you was the famous American Vanguard investor. 4 minutes ago, Tumshie said: Where there's Bogle there's usually a Beagle Mmmmm. Bogle and Beagle. Could we start a private investigation company?Though I think Beagle and Bogle would be better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumshie Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, rusty69 said: Though I think Beagle and Bogle would be better. Is the Pink Panther the thief, the detective or the Mcguffin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Tumshie said: Is the Pink Panther the thief, the detective or the Mcguffin That is not the pink panther. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumshie Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 Just now, rusty69 said: That is not the pink panther. Oh Who you bean this week then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 PS I had to google Mcguffin. I thought it may have been Macgyvers brother.....it wasn't. Just now, Tumshie said: Oh Who you bean this week then? Well, I just changed cat suit. I was Felix, but am now snagglepuss. Dunno who I will be tomorrow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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