Hallmark 70ft is a maybe

[rusty69]

7 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:

Sold it for more that we paid for it,

...Boomers had it damn fine

[Alan de Enfield]

2 minutes ago, rusty69 said:

...Boomers had it damn fine

 

Aye lad - but you couldn't get bacon butties !!!

 

Fourteen years of food rationing in Britain ended at midnight on 4 July 1954, when restrictions on the sale and purchase of meat and bacon were lifted. This happened nine years after the end of the war.

[doratheexplorer]

never heard of Hallmark Boats boat they don't half look like Calcutt Clippers.  Same shell fabricator?

[Alan de Enfield]

36 minutes ago, doratheexplorer said:

never heard of Hallmark Boats boat they don't half look like Calcutt Clippers.  Same shell fabricator?

Not unless Hallmark supplied Calcutt.

 

Hallmark made their own shells and did their own fitting out (or at least they did when I visited them - they were just up the road from us at Flint)

[rusty69]

14 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:

Not unless Hallmark supplied Calcutt.

Looking at Calcutt, they have a lovely Colecraft on their books. I bet it is immaculately maintained. Looks like a bargain to me.

[Alan de Enfield]

15 minutes ago, rusty69 said:

Looking at Calcutt, they have a lovely Colecraft on their books. I bet it is immaculately maintained. Looks like a bargain to me.

Obviously owned by a perfectionist who always "wants things right".

[70liveaboard]

On 17/09/2019 at 17:05, doratheexplorer said:

never heard of Hallmark Boats boat they don't half look like Calcutt Clippers.  Same shell fabricator?

Hallmark supplied shells to other builders from their Newark fabrication workshop. But I'm pretty sure Calcutt was not one of them.

[70liveaboard]

If the year of this is right and the length 45ft (although marked here as 44), then this is a 'Tradline' from Hallmark.

 

Tradline was their fully traditional, classed as a lower mid range boat. Don't see many of these around at all. I know they built quite a number of trads, semi trads etc. But they were their standard mid/upper mid range, to higher end, depending on customer spec, with standard steel spec of 10/6/4 (standard for the 90's really), or above, as was the 70ft in this thread (iirc 10/8/5/4).

 

Not sure of the spec of the Tradline one's, but I'll try and find out.

 

Anyway:

https://narrowboats.apolloduck.co.uk/boat/hallmark-44-traditional/619607

[syd]

Well I'm sorry I've dug this older thread up, but I knew Chris who owned Hallmark quite well back from the mid 80's. They were in Salford back then, then moved to up near Bolton iirc. There they had two large workshops together, one producing steel shells I think, mainly for other fitting out companies and also for themselves.

 

I am surprised after spending some time reading through this whole thread that a few posters think of them as purely budget, when really they weren't, they simply had a budget ranges. But I guess it depends on how long you've been around the boat industry.

 

Regards the part I read that said there wasn't anything much at the disposal sale, when I was there there were around 27 hulls in total at Chester end 4 inside the rest out in the huge yard there. They also had around 7-8 on the floor at the fabrication workshop in, iirc, Longeaton could be wrong about that location but a friend of ours went as he worked for the council, Newark way or there abouts. Huge place with lots of boats on the go is the impression I got from him.

 

It was a joy to read this thread and if your still around OP please respond, geat people they were, got lots of boaters on the canals with those budget ranges.

(I do know the reasons behind the closure at Hallmark).

 

Just saying my current boat is a small Holly class 'iirc' built by them, before the 90's budget stuff, back to 87.

It is correct they used many shell builders to, they seemed like they were always pulled out with work.

 

They also used Clubline and the - wysiwyg - shells. Anyone remember those on here ?

 

I'm glad I searched now, very interesting read.

 

I'll search Mike Heywood next.

[mrsmelly]

3 hours ago, syd said:

Well I'm sorry I've dug this older thread up, but I knew Chris who owned Hallmark quite well back from the mid 80's. They were in Salford back then, then moved to up near Bolton iirc. There they had two large workshops together, one producing steel shells I think, mainly for other fitting out companies and also for themselves.

 

I am surprised after spending some time reading through this whole thread that a few posters think of them as purely budget, when really they weren't, they simply had a budget ranges. But I guess it depends on how long you've been around the boat industry.

 

Regards the part I read that said there wasn't anything much at the disposal sale, when I was there there were around 27 hulls in total at Chester end 4 inside the rest out in the huge yard there. They also had around 7-8 on the floor at the fabrication workshop in, iirc, Longeaton could be wrong about that location but a friend of ours went as he worked for the council, Newark way or there abouts. Huge place with lots of boats on the go is the impression I got from him.

 

It was a joy to read this thread and if your still around OP please respond, geat people they were, got lots of boaters on the canals with those budget ranges.

(I do know the reasons behind the closure at Hallmark).

 

Just saying my current boat is a small Holly class 'iirc' built by them, before the 90's budget stuff, back to 87.

It is correct they used many shell builders to, they seemed like they were always pulled out with work.

 

They also used Clubline and the - wysiwyg - shells. Anyone remember those on here ?

 

I'm glad I searched now, very interesting read.

 

I'll search Mike Heywood next.

I remember the What you see is what you get shells very well. I bought a Swanline instead 

[syd]

13 hours ago, mrsmelly said:

I remember the What you see is what you get shells very well. I bought a Swanline instead 

Yes, I think it was a case of, if a customer wanted a boat but had limited funds, they'd use a builder that produced low spec hull's like the wysiwyg. Although in fairness to Clubline they did build some reasonably nice hull's to. But the wysiwyg was bottom of the price scale, on a par with Springer, possibly even cheaper than Springer hull wise.

Swanline weren't a bad little hull, certainly better than the wysiwyg, but depends on your funds I suppose.

 

Anyone heard of Jaris Boatbuilders on here. They were also out of Manchester/Salford ?

also Doug & George out of Hull/Grimsby ? (springer'ish style hull)

 

[70liveaboard]

On 12/03/2022 at 11:48, syd said:

Anyone heard of Jaris Boatbuilders on here. They were also out of Manchester/Salford ?

also Doug & George out of Hull/Grimsby ? (springer'ish style hull)

 

I've heard of both of these builders Jaris and D&G in Hull. Years melt away, when names are mentioned.

 

I read your post above about Hallmark Narrowboats, they are/were very good builders.

Also Clubline and Mike Heywood who I knew too. Did you want any info about Mike ?

[syd]

On 22/04/2022 at 15:02, 70liveaboard said:

I've heard of both of these builders Jaris and D&G in Hull. Years melt away, when names are mentioned.

 

I read your post above about Hallmark Narrowboats, they are/were very good builders.

Also Clubline and Mike Heywood who I knew too. Did you want any info about Mike ?

Sorry I missed this. I have been talking about Heywood with a fellow boater just recently, so I know more than I did. Thank you though.