system 4-50 Posted April 22, 2018 Report Share Posted April 22, 2018 I expect when MrSmelly wants a quiet tunnel boat trip he gets MrsS to leg it through. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detling Posted April 22, 2018 Report Share Posted April 22, 2018 The big benefit of hybrid is you can have a small (maybe 15 HP) engine running at optimum revs whilst cruising nicely but have 35 HP stopping power and accelerate power boosted by the electric. This should use less fuel than a 35 HP engine ticking over or running at sub optimal revs 90% of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmelly Posted April 22, 2018 Report Share Posted April 22, 2018 2 hours ago, Mike the Boilerman said: But but... there is NO saving on diesel. Fuel consumption is likely to be higher if anything, as you have to run the engine to run the generator to charge the batteries which then supply leccy to the motor that turns the prop. Several extra layers of energy losses it there compared to 'run the engine which turns the prop'. The whole thing is pointless. Or is there something making you think otherwise? Very true. There are several methods employed on boats for many many years that actualy work and is why most people still use the tried and trusted methods and will continue for some time yet. Such as SOLID fuel stoves. GAS cooking. Internal combustion engines for propulsion and electricity generation and Lead acid batteries. Some stuff helps a little such as solar panels but cannot be used in isolation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen-in-Wellies Posted April 22, 2018 Report Share Posted April 22, 2018 50 minutes ago, mrsmelly said: Very true. There are several methods employed on boats for many many years that actualy work and is why most people still use the tried and trusted methods and will continue for some time yet. Such as SOLID fuel stoves. GAS cooking. Internal combustion engines for propulsion and electricity generation and Lead acid batteries. Some stuff helps a little such as solar panels but cannot be used in isolation. And why most of those solid fuel stoves have an ecofan on top. Oops, did I just say that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted April 22, 2018 Report Share Posted April 22, 2018 Its so hot onboard today, I lit the fire to get a cool breeze from the ecofan. Bliss it is! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Bob Posted April 22, 2018 Report Share Posted April 22, 2018 20 minutes ago, rusty69 said: Its so hot onboard today, I lit the fire to get a cool breeze from the ecofan. Bliss it is! I was going to do that but ran out of matches. Anyone got any boy scouts to rub together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted April 22, 2018 Report Share Posted April 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Dr Bob said: I was going to do that but ran out of matches. Anyone got any boy scouts to rub together? Here. Use my flaming log. Don't forget to email it back though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Bob Posted April 22, 2018 Report Share Posted April 22, 2018 8 minutes ago, rusty69 said: Here. Use my flaming log. Don't forget to email it back though Oh, it went out. That's not going to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted April 22, 2018 Report Share Posted April 22, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Dr Bob said: Oh, it went out. That's not going to work. It was fine when it left here. Edited April 22, 2018 by rusty69 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmelly Posted April 22, 2018 Report Share Posted April 22, 2018 49 minutes ago, Jen-in-Wellies said: And why most of those solid fuel stoves have an ecofan on top. Oops, did I just say that? Perhaps we should..............err no....................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen-in-Wellies Posted April 22, 2018 Report Share Posted April 22, 2018 21 minutes ago, mrsmelly said: Perhaps we should..............err no....................... I wonder if there is a topic about them? Perhaps you could start one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuthound Posted April 22, 2018 Report Share Posted April 22, 2018 In addition to the points already raised, there are two others. 1) Overly complicated, so more likely to go wrong. 2) When it does go wrong the average boatyard won't have the skills to fix it. With boats conservative design and redundancy (having another key system such as central heating and a stove in case one fails), are the key things. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Ambrose Posted April 22, 2018 Report Share Posted April 22, 2018 7 hours ago, Dr Bob said: How about hamsters? A couple of hundred in cages on the roof with little wheels. Teach 'em to sleep in the day. At night the wheels go round and charge the batteries. During day, the solar kicks in. Need to oil the spindles well to get a good nights sleep. No need to teach the Hamsters to sleep in the day.... they are nocturnal Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted April 22, 2018 Report Share Posted April 22, 2018 8 hours ago, Tumshie said: Fair doos - but until you didn't discuss it I didn't know that so I appreciate you and Jen-in-Wellies taking the time to not discuss it with me. There are a number of alternatives, one being 'wife power', so in addition to lock operation, baby production, washing & cooking they make useful generator operators : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Bob Posted April 22, 2018 Report Share Posted April 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Phil Ambrose said: No need to teach the Hamsters to sleep in the day.... they are nocturnal Phil There we go, we are half way there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevMc Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 17 hours ago, rusty69 said: Its so hot onboard today, I lit the fire to get a cool breeze from the ecofan. Bliss it is! How about an ecofan stuck to the inside of the roof - ok you'd need to cut through the insulation etc. but if your roof is hot would it be enough to turn the fan blades? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 25 minutes ago, KevMc said: How about an ecofan stuck to the inside of the roof - ok you'd need to cut through the insulation etc. but if your roof is hot would it be enough to turn the fan blades? These ecofan 'jokes' have from endless repetition become less than side splitting. Can we revert to the 'Hudson/butler' jokes please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess-- Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 8 minutes ago, Mike the Boilerman said: These ecofan 'jokes' have from endless repetition become less than side splitting. Can we revert to the 'Hudson/butler' jokes please? surely it's time for the multiple smartgauge jokes to resurface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 9 minutes ago, Jess-- said: surely it's time for the multiple smartgauge jokes to resurface. That's a good idea. Some of them were really funny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuthound Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 (edited) 18 hours ago, Phil Ambrose said: No need to teach the Hamsters to sleep in the day.... they are nocturnal Phil Indeed, I have only ever seen them play at night. As is is one of my favourite bands (now sadly retired) playing one of my favourite songs, perhaps I will put it in the "share your music" thread. Edited April 23, 2018 by cuthound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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