Dave_P Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 If it stops some of the reckless steering of some day hire crews then it’s a good thing, surely? More info here: http://waterway-news.blogspot.com/2018/04/hire-companies-to-introduce-driverless.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyboy Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 45 minutes ago, Dave_P said: If it stops some of the reckless steering of some day hire crews then it’s a good thing, surely? More info here: http://waterway-news.blogspot.com/2018/04/hire-companies-to-introduce-driverless.html Where ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob-M Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 Have you not noticed the date...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 (edited) What a good idea. I guess given their names they could be solar powered...... Bring me sunshine Edited April 1, 2018 by rusty69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_P Posted April 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Rob-M said: Have you not noticed the date...? Don't ruin it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roland elsdon Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 Substitute the word driverless for mindless and we are already there . The future is golden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Bob Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 I guess they will be using Smartgauges to manage their power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 Worth a greenie but no button on mod's posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eeyore Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 Jolly good idea. Looks like the early trials with Canaltime came in useful after all; how many times did we hear “well I wasn’t driving” after being hit by one ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murflynn Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 12 hours ago, Rob-M said: Have you not noticed the date...? spoilsport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horace42 Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 Why the fuss. Nothing new here. I have already got one. Sat-Nav controlled route selector, Dash-Cam helm/bow-thruster control, obstruction recognition sensors, Forward-Neutral-Reverse engine speed regulators, and 'Parking-Sensor' type proximity control with automatic fender deployment - all linked and integrated by a computer. The design has a few teething troubles I must admit, the computer algorithms need further refinement. For the moment a degree of uncertainty about reliability exists whilst cruising, which means, for peace-of-mind, it is better to have a person at the helm to oversee proper function. But when stationary it can be left unattended entirely alone - it works perfectly with 150% confidence. I use it all the time when moored. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Bob Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 50 minutes ago, Horace42 said: Why the fuss. Nothing new here. I have already got one. Sat-Nav controlled route selector, Dash-Cam helm/bow-thruster control, obstruction recognition sensors, Forward-Neutral-Reverse engine speed regulators, and 'Parking-Sensor' type proximity control with automatic fender deployment - all linked and integrated by a computer. The design has a few teething troubles I must admit, the computer algorithms need further refinement. For the moment a degree of uncertainty about reliability exists whilst cruising, which means, for peace-of-mind, it is better to have a person at the helm to oversee proper function. But when stationary it can be left unattended entirely alone - it works perfectly with 150% confidence. I use it all the time when moored. You have forgotten the depth sounder array linked to the engine speed regulators to enable accurate steerage round sharp shallow bends. The depth sounder array could be subsituted with extentsive algorithms or more advanced prediction techniques (such as Topology or neural networks) of speed through the water vs engine revs predicting depth under the prop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain_S Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 I thought many day boats had this system aready? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Brummie Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 Don't be too quick to scoff. 3 years ago, on a Viking River Cruise on the Rhine, the boat had all the GPS, depth sounders and proximity sensors that 'reported' to the computerised control and set the course and speed. Granted there was also a human to supervise the operation, but much was automatic. Very impressive. The cruise was a disappointment, as instead of cruising during the day, much was done at night and days were spent stationary with tours round the town or city. Also, because of water depth problems, two days of cruising were undertaken unloaded whilst we were ferried about by coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderer Vagabond Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, Ex Brummie said: Don't be too quick to scoff. 3 years ago, on a Viking River Cruise on the Rhine, the boat had all the GPS, depth sounders and proximity sensors that 'reported' to the computerised control and set the course and speed. Granted there was also a human to supervise the operation, but much was automatic. Very impressive. The cruise was a disappointment, as instead of cruising during the day, much was done at night and days were spent stationary with tours round the town or city. Also, because of water depth problems, two days of cruising were undertaken unloaded whilst we were ferried about by coach. Not sure I'd like to meet one in Braunston Tunnel whilst in automatic mode (no GPS there, how will it know where it is?). I suppose if they officially make it a contact sport it'd be OK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Brummie Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 For the size of the ship (that is what they called it), I don't think you're likely to encounter anything like it. I suppose it's only a scaled down version of an ocean going ship, but even they have pilots in confined channels. And there was always at least one man in the bridge. Incidentally, the bridge was able to be lowered automatically for low heights, leaving just a small window to let the driver peer through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horace42 Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 On 4/1/2018 at 21:57, Dr Bob said: You have forgotten the depth sounder array linked to the engine speed regulators to enable accurate steerage round sharp shallow bends. The depth sounder array could be subsituted with extentsive algorithms or more advanced prediction techniques (such as Topology or neural networks) of speed through the water vs engine revs predicting depth under the prop. Thanks for that. I think I might be able to adapt the winding-hole 'about-turn' function - albeit I am no good at computer coding - I am on already on medication for extensive algorithms - ones has hopes of a cure ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boater Sam Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 I know of one canal boat with a depth sounder........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Bob Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 45 minutes ago, Boater Sam said: I know of one canal boat with a depth sounder........... I dont know of one lumpy water boat without a depth sounder........... Even after 1 year of being on the cut, I still look for the depth gauge. I would find one quite useful at the front and back of the boat....but then I just like toys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, Dr Bob said: I dont know of one lumpy water boat without a depth sounder........... Even after 1 year of being on the cut, I still look for the depth gauge. I would find one quite useful at the front and back of the boat....but then I just like toys. I think most of the time both would read zero! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Bob Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, Mike the Boilerman said: I think most of the time both would read zero! Not if they were set for actual water depth rather than water under the keel. then they would read 71 cms on my boat and 2' 4" on Mrsmelly's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
system 4-50 Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 We don't have a depth sounder on our wooden yacht, but we do have a piece of string with weights every few feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Bob Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, system 4-50 said: We don't have a depth sounder on our wooden yacht, but we do have a piece of string with weights every few feet. What that in proper units? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stilllearning Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 Just now, Dr Bob said: What that in proper units? Oh stop swinging the lead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
system 4-50 Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Dr Bob said: What that in proper units? no idea but its useful for taking the weight off your feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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