How to replace a pane of glass

[Karen Lea Rainey]

Hi all,  hoping someone can tell me it's very simple, I have a broken glass window, the fixed bottom of a hopper type,, it's taped up to keep the weather out,my question is,

If I order a new glass only from a glazier/ window maker. How easy is it to put the glass in yourself,

Q. Is the glass sandwiched between frames,?

Or is the frame to be undone somehow to squeeze a new glass in,

I've put glass in at home before with beading and putty but this looks a little more complicated.

Hopefully somebody can point me in the right direction please.

[Nightwatch]

I have replaced one pane. I found I had to take the frame our and there's fixings (screws) that allow the frame to cone apart. Careful with the rubbers, ensure everything tucked in when you reassemble. Our windows are Caldwells. 

[Karen Lea Rainey]

So if I unscrew the 10 or 12 screws visible from outside, prise the window out like taking a top off a tin of paint, will the outside part of the window come apart, or do I take the whole window frame out in one piece and then dismantle ?

[Bee]

Depends on the frame but to ease the glass in the rubber seals fairy liquid makes it slide in quite nicely

[Kendorr]

Mine come out in 1 piece, then 2 screws hold in the horizontal piece.

You might need to buy new seals, try these

http://www.sealsdirect.co.uk/

Kevin

[sharpness]

I think you will need to remove the whole frame in one piece to drill out a couple of pop rivets at the top to dismantle it & them slide the new glass in from the top.

[Nightwatch]

Mine has screws rather than rivets. Had to take the complete frame out.

[David Mack]

1 hour ago, Karen Lea Rainey said:

Hi all,  hoping someone can tell me it's very simple, I have a broken glass window, the fixed bottom of a hopper type,, it's taped up to keep the weather out,my question is,

If I order a new glass only from a glazier/ window maker. How easy is it to put the glass in yourself,

Q. Is the glass sandwiched between frames,?

Or is the frame to be undone somehow to squeeze a new glass in,

I've put glass in at home before with beading and putty but this looks a little more complicated.

Hopefully somebody can point me in the right direction please.

Narrow boat windows are normally toughened or laminated glass. Might be easier to obtain the right size and shape from the window manufacturer than from a local glazier.

Edited March 28, 2018 by David Mack

[Dr Bob]

11 hours ago, sharpness said:

I think you will need to remove the whole frame in one piece to drill out a couple of pop rivets at the top to dismantle it & them slide the new glass in from the top.

How do you take the whole frame out?

[Tony Brooks]

https://www.eagleboatwindows.co.uk

might be an easier bet if you can get the frame to them. Worth a telephone call.

[Machpoint005]

When we had a couple of windows broken by a vandal, several years ago, we got a local (contractor's plant) cab glazing firm to do the whole job. It was much simpler and easier than D-I-Y and it didn't cost a fortune. Don't get me wrong, I am quite happy to turn my hand to the tasks I can manage, but IMO this is one of the specialist jobs better left to the experts who do it every day. 

[pete.i]

When I did mine a few years ago I was told that it had to be toughened glass. As I was replacing all my windows at the time I took an unbroken pane to a local glazier and he cut the glass and then sent it off for toughening. If you do the measurements yourself to take to a glazier make sure you are pinpoint accurate because once it is toughened it cannot be cut.

[Machpoint005]

11 minutes ago, pete.i said:

If you do the measurements yourself to take to a glazier make sure you are pinpoint accurate

If you leave the whole job to the professionals it becomes their responsibility! However I think most 'standard' windows have a 100mm radius at the corners, and it's not difficult to measure height and width to better than a millimetre.

[canals are us?]

My windows are channel glaze. If I ever in the unfortunate position in needing to replace any glass I would contact the manufacturers as the toughening process isn't cheap. I had a little 400mm x 150mm bathroom window hopper shatter late one night in the Marina and so far haven't had it toughened as it was £5 for the glass and £22.50 to have it toughened!

I plan to take it to my other more reasonable glaziers and may have 2 other bottom fixed panes toughened as well for spares.

If you can find a glazier that stocks 4mm laminated you could get them to cut it there and then. My glazier I know would have the frame and cut the glass to size and fit it for you if you wanted.

James

[WotEver]

6 minutes ago, canals are us? said:

I had a little 400mm x 150mm bathroom window hopper shatter late one night in the Marina and so far haven't had it toughened as it was £5 for the glass and £22.50 to have it toughened!

How much?!

When I made Col’s dog Box I had 4 dg panels made up, each 824x357, toughened one side, laminated the other, and they were £85 + VAT for the four. 

I also had a toughened dg unit made for a conservatory door, 1665x378, and that cost £45. 

Edited March 29, 2018 by WotEver
Got the price wrong.

[canals are us?]

9 minutes ago, WotEver said:

How much?!

When I made Col’s dog Box I had 4 dg panels made up, each 824x357, toughened one side, laminated the other, and they were £85 + VAT for the four. 

I also had a toughened dg unit made for a conservatory door, 1665x378, and that cost £45. 

My thoughts too, so didn't buy! Your price more like it.

James

[sharpness]

12 hours ago, Dr Bob said:

How do you take the whole frame out?

In my case it would be remove the rubber strip on the outside of the window which cover the screws, remove the screws holding the frame to the cabin side, about 6" apart, so quite a few of them then lift out the whole lot. It might be necessary to cut round any sealant if its still doing its job!!!!

[Detling]

If it is a hire/commercial boat you need toughened, it's part of the other BSS they have but private boats don't need it.