MtB Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 I have a few awkward to get into corners on the boat that need de-rusting and painting and a Dremel seemed a Good Idea for grinding back to clean metal in the corners, so I bought a cheapo clone Dremel on ebay. Total waste of money, it has no power at all and the bit simply stops rotating as soon as any pressure is applied. So do I need a genuine Dremel? Are they actually any better than my cheapo clone? Or can anyone recommend a specific Dremel type of tool from personal experience please? If a Dremel really is the best, which of their many models? Their website is frustratingly data-intensive and slow to load on this mobile connection and looks like it was designed by marketing tools who just claim everything is great, anyway P.S. I'm looking for a battery one, not 240v corded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reg Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 (edited) I have a battery Dremel, perfect for a bit of woodwork, cutting of small screw ends etc but not IMVHO any use for removing rust or other heavy or even medium type usage, simply don't have the torgue for the job and would just stop dead when meeting any resistance. I also have a cheapo 240v item which is a lot more useful. Edited March 26, 2018 by reg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 (edited) Would something like a flexible drill extension be better for your needs? Use the power of your current drill, but small and flexible enough to get into areas? Like.. https://www.toolstation.com/shop/Power+Tool+Accessories/d80/Speciality+Drills+%26+Chucks/sd1400/Flexible+Drill+Shaft/p28938 Edited March 26, 2018 by Robbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlt Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 Like reg my battery Dremel stays in its drawer except for very light jobs away from a power source whereas my cheap and cheerful Lidl 240V jobbie is used constantly and has its own workbench (well it shares with a soldering iron but I try to avoid soldering at all costs). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzard Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 Dremels are only intended for modelling and light model engineering work. For this they are very good. I have a 12v one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nb Innisfree Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 I have a genuine 240v Dremel, used for squaring lots of holes for coach bolts on boat shell, that was 15 years ago and it's still going strong, loads of oomph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted March 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 1 hour ago, bizzard said: Dremels are only intended for modelling and light model engineering work. For this they are very good. I have a 12v one. The dremel website claims they can cut stuff. Steel included I think... what sort light model engineering tasks would you use yours for Bizz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlt Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 Just now, Mike the Boilerman said: The dremel website claims they can cut stuff. Steel included I think... what sort light model engineering tasks would you use yours for Bizz? My Lidl one can cut through steel with the correct attachment (I have lopped small nails with it) but if I was scrapping a narrowboat I'd opt for a gas axe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted March 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 16 minutes ago, carlt said: My Lidl one can cut through steel with the correct attachment (I have lopped small nails with it) but if I was scrapping a narrowboat I'd opt for a gas axe. I'd never scrap a narrowboat. No matter how bad it is, there is always someone will buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshire cat Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 Many dremel attachments will fit in the chuck of a battery drill. Good for grinding away crusty rust in tight corners that orbital devices cannot squeeze into or where you want to do minimum possible damage to the paintwork. It is slow progress though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted March 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 38 minutes ago, Cheshire cat said: Many dremel attachments will fit in the chuck of a battery drill. Good for grinding away crusty rust in tight corners that orbital devices cannot squeeze into or where you want to do minimum possible damage to the paintwork. It is slow progress though. Yes that's exactly what I want it for. But my battery drill only rotates at about 500rpm, not the 5,000 to 25,000 rpm of a Dremel. Looks as though the mains ones (of any brand) work well and the battery ones are shyte then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob-M Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 We have a Worx Sonicrafter that you can get all sorts of attachments for. I've not used it for metal work yet but I think it would be up to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mack Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 2 hours ago, nb Innisfree said: I have a genuine 240v Dremel, used for squaring lots of holes for coach bolts on boat shell, that was 15 years ago and it's still going strong, loads of oomph. A drill that makes round holes square? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyertribe Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 Ive got 2 mains Dremels, one with a flex shaft. It will cut small amounts of all sorts of metals and would be useful for small amounts of rust. I use the flex shaft for silversmithing, mostly grinding and polishing. the other one is set up on a stand for accurate drilling jobs, again silversmithing related.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reg Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Mike the Boilerman said: Looks as though the mains ones (of any brand) work well and the battery ones are shyte then. I would say the battery ones are good at what they are designed to do e.g light modeling detail work, removing burs of acrylic, cutting end of small protruding screws etc. I also knew a chiropodist who found one very useful. As I don't do any modeling mine basically sits in the drawer. The odd occasion I need to use one I find it's usually far less bother to connect up the 240v one as invariably the 12v needs recharging before use As I said battery one us good at what it's designed for but push it outside it's limited parameters and it's not much use, which is fair enough in book. Edited March 26, 2018 by reg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nb Innisfree Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 2 hours ago, David Mack said: A drill that makes round holes square? Well squarish, enough for a 6mm coachbolt. Though there is such a thing as a square hole drill bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artleknock Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 I have a Dremel 4000 in the workshop. It will easily cut metal with the cutting wheel. One of the jobs I use it for is cutting up to 12mm square HSS tool blanks . I even made an atatchment to fit it on to the lathe to use it as a grinder (to grind true the jaws on a three jaw chuck). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEngo Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 MTB- Get a B&D Power file, not any sort of Dremel. https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/232659001749?chn=ps&dispItem=1&adgroupid=47476323250&rlsatarget=pla-414281536541&abcId=1133916&adtype=pla&merchantid=9495714&poi=&googleloc=1006843&device=c&campaignid=1058842219&crdt=0 Makita do a dearer and better version with 3 widths of belt. Great for corners, rust removal etc. They are corded though, and I've not found a battery one. Dremels go round quick, but have no power. N Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raymondh Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/192274503734?chn=ps&dispItem=1&adgroupid=52130512215&rlsatarget=pla-412983603010&abcId=1133906&adtype=pla&merchantid=6995734&poi=&googleloc=9046878&device=t&campaignid=1058844235&crdt=0&ul_ref=http%3A%2F%2Frover.ebay.com%2Frover%2F1%2F710-134428-41853-0%2F2%3Fmpre%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.ebay.co.uk%252Fp%252FMakita-GD0601-1-4-inch-Die-Grinder%252F1465117589%253Fiid%253D192274503734%2526chn%253Dps%2526dispItem%253D1%26itemid%3D192274503734%26targetid%3D412983603010%26device%3Dt%26adtype%3Dpla%26googleloc%3D9046878%26poi%3D%26campaignid%3D1058844235%26adgroupid%3D52130512215%26rlsatarget%3Dpla-412983603010%26abcId%3D1133906%26merchantid%3D6995734%26gclid%3DCj0KCQjw1-fVBRC3ARIsAIifYOOpu9nCqNQ7skIQ9KfHDp1ErlqhIC7U9k7D__HYRlw8EuRjC9Yn6NAaAvrfEALw_wcB%26srcrot%3D710-134428-41853-0%26rvr_id%3D1480422496727 This type of die grinder is what you need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlt Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, raymondh said: https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/192274503734?chn=ps&dispItem=1&adgroupid=52130512215&rlsatarget=pla-412983603010&abcId=1133906&adtype=pla&merchantid=6995734&poi=&googleloc=9046878&device=t&campaignid=1058844235&crdt=0&ul_ref=http%3A%2F%2Frover.ebay.com%2Frover%2F1%2F710-134428-41853-0%2F2%3Fmpre%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.ebay.co.uk%252Fp%252FMakita-GD0601-1-4-inch-Die-Grinder%252F1465117589%253Fiid%253D192274503734%2526chn%253Dps%2526dispItem%253D1%26itemid%3D192274503734%26targetid%3D412983603010%26device%3Dt%26adtype%3Dpla%26googleloc%3D9046878%26poi%3D%26campaignid%3D1058844235%26adgroupid%3D52130512215%26rlsatarget%3Dpla-412983603010%26abcId%3D1133906%26merchantid%3D6995734%26gclid%3DCj0KCQjw1-fVBRC3ARIsAIifYOOpu9nCqNQ7skIQ9KfHDp1ErlqhIC7U9k7D__HYRlw8EuRjC9Yn6NAaAvrfEALw_wcB%26srcrot%3D710-134428-41853-0%26rvr_id%3D1480422496727 This type of die grinder is what you need Congratulations sir! You have won the "Longest link of the month" award! Edited to add: But that is a pretty bit of kit when you click on it. Edited March 27, 2018 by carlt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumshie Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 15 minutes ago, raymondh said: https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/192274503734?chn=ps&dispItem=1&adgroupid=52130512215&rlsatarget=pla-412983603010&abcId=1133906&adtype=pla&merchantid=6995734&poi=&googleloc=9046878&device=t&campaignid=1058844235&crdt=0&ul_ref=http%3A%2F%2Frover.ebay.com%2Frover%2F1%2F710-134428-41853-0%2F2%3Fmpre%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.ebay.co.uk%252Fp%252FMakita-GD0601-1-4-inch-Die-Grinder%252F1465117589%253Fiid%253D192274503734%2526chn%253Dps%2526dispItem%253D1%26itemid%3D192274503734%26targetid%3D412983603010%26device%3Dt%26adtype%3Dpla%26googleloc%3D9046878%26poi%3D%26campaignid%3D1058844235%26adgroupid%3D52130512215%26rlsatarget%3Dpla-412983603010%26abcId%3D1133906%26merchantid%3D6995734%26gclid%3DCj0KCQjw1-fVBRC3ARIsAIifYOOpu9nCqNQ7skIQ9KfHDp1ErlqhIC7U9k7D__HYRlw8EuRjC9Yn6NAaAvrfEALw_wcB%26srcrot%3D710-134428-41853-0%26rvr_id%3D1480422496727 This type of die grinder is what you need I was a bit scared to click on it incase I ended up in The Matrix... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBiscuits Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 Try this one without the ad tracking junk: https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/192274503734 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlt Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, Tumshie said: I was a bit scared to click on it incase I ended up in The Matrix... There is no spoon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 6 minutes ago, Tumshie said: I was a bit scared to click on it incase I ended up in The Matrix... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumshie Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, carlt said: There is no spoon. Phew... Wait.... What? Wax on... oh no wrong film 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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