where is this scene

[jeannette smith harrison]

Hello 

Looking for some clues as to where these paintings may have been painted or if anyone recognises the artist .

Thank you 

[magnetman]

Thames and Severn?

 

A wild guess - is the wide barge in the first picture a Trow maybe ?

Edited March 17, 2018 by magnetman

[Richard T]

My thoughts for what they are worth is Hertford for the first one. There are still similar buildings on the waterfront there.

[Laurence Hogg]

IN the south for my money, early style dec on the NB and a dutch sounding signature. A floating visitor?

[Derek R.]

I read the signature as Jas [James?] Moore.

Where would we see a barge/lighter with a winch on the foredeck?

Nice paintings. The second looks like the boat is tied in the same place as the first but without big brother. Artistic licence at work?

[magnetman]

Trow barges had winches on the front which is why I suggested it. Other types of sailing barges as well. 

Some small sailing barges came inland from the thames so the Hertford suggestion seems quite plausible.

 

 

[Jerra]

I have no idea but going by the first shot can I borrow the time machine I want to get next weeks lottery  numbers!

[Mac of Cygnet]

3 minutes ago, Jerra said:

I have no idea but going by the first shot can I borrow the time machine I want to get next weeks lottery  numbers!

I think the alien spaceship in the second picture may be what you are looking for.

[Jerra]

1 minute ago, Mac of Cygnet said:

I think the alien spaceship in the second picture may be what you are looking for.

No the first photo was taken on 17th April this year so must be a time machine.

[Pluto]

The wide boat could be either a River Lee or River Wey barge. The winch would probably have been use more for manoeuvring around the docks than for anchoring. The inward sloping rail on the covering boards at the bow is typical of smaller Thames area wide boats, though they can also be found on boats based around the Stroudwater.

[IanM]

I think you can pretty much rule out anywhere on the Stroudwater or Thames and Severn. Doesn’t look like anywhere on those two canals that I can think of.

[magnetman]

I thought a winch like that was for raising and lowering the mast on a sailing barge.

[Peter X]

I'd expect most older buildings along the Thames & Severn to be in the yellow Cotswold stone, and the buildings in the pictures do fit with that. Those in the foreground of the first picture may be wooden?

[magnetman]

The second picture shows the boat resting against a vertical pole so it may have been on a river or a river section of a navigation. 

 

Or the pole may have been pushed into the canal bed to keep the boat from going aground. Looks thicker than a normal shaft though. Possibly a setting pole.

 

Upper Thames ?

Edited March 18, 2018 by magnetman

[Pluto]

5 hours ago, magnetman said:

I thought a winch like that was for raising and lowering the mast on a sailing barge.

Winches at the bow were fitted to many types of barge, both sail and dumb. The one illustrated is comparatively small, which is why the boat was probably an unpowered barge, with the winch used for working in docks, anchoring, etc. On sailing barges, the winch barrel tended to be larger and set higher. Of course, it could always have been painted with artistic licence.

[magnetman]

It reminds me a bit of this boat. Its impossible to see things from the perspective if the painter but the narrow boat looked pretty accurate in the paintings.

 

 

 

Barge previously discussed here a while ago

 

 

 

[alan_fincher]

10 hours ago, Pluto said:

The wide boat could be either a River Lee or River Wey barge. The winch would probably have been use more for manoeuvring around the docks than for anchoring. The inward sloping rail on the covering boards at the bow is typical of smaller Thames area wide boats, though they can also be found on boats based around the Stroudwater.

This shows the winch on the front of a William Stevens" Wey barge.

(Photo: Mike Fincher)

[TheBiscuits]

https://www.orleanshousegallery.org/collection-search/?search=moore

Has 3 pictures by Jas Moore two of which are Thames barges, and one of which is Thames towpath. 

[Derek R.]

The idea of Brentford did at first appear, and in particular below the gauging lock, but the second doesn't fit that location. And as Pluto has pointed out - how much artistic licence is involved. Fine pictures all.