Middlewich Branch breach - Shropshire Union

[rgreg]

7 minutes ago, AndrewIC said:

Are they still pumping water back up into that length from the junction pound?

They had what appeared to be pipework etc at Wardle lock but I didn't see or hear any pumping when I was there.

[The Ents]

There has been no water pumped into the pound for several weeks, but whatever feeders there are are maintaining enough water to cover the clay.

[Boater Sam]

Breaking News!

 

Sounds of piling yesterday and this morning.

 

Have all the badgers moved out?

Have the birds all flown off?

Have they finally run out of excuses for not starting work?

No newts or water voles stopping progress?

 

Stuck here on the moorings, getting a bit cynical.

Sam.

 

[Pie Eater]

The next excuse is that it is too dry to puddle clay.

[Boater Sam]

No, its very quiet today.................................its raining on and off.  Suppose that will stop all work for the rest of next week too.

[Alan de Enfield]

Yes - if its too wet you cannot puddle the clay.

[ditchcrawler]

On 26/07/2018 at 17:28, Boater Sam said:

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Stuck here on the moorings, getting a bit cynical.

Sam.

 

How come you are stuck? I thought all the boats were out, even the one that was high and dry

 

[TheBiscuits]

3 minutes ago, ditchcrawler said:

How come you are stuck? I thought all the boats were out, even the one that was high and dry

 

He isn't - he just doesn't want to reverse 4 miles to go anywhere.

[ditchcrawler]

Just now, TheBiscuits said:

He isn't - he just doesn't want to reverse 4 miles to go anywhere.

No other traffic about, whats the problem

[Alan de Enfield]

45 minutes ago, TheBiscuits said:

He isn't - he just doesn't want to reverse 4 miles to go anywhere.

Maybe he's embarrassed with his reversing skill (or lack of) ?

[TheBiscuits]

15 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:

Maybe he's embarrassed with his reversing skill (or lack of) ?

A few times reversing round bends for 4 miles would soon fix that if it is the case.

 

Practice may not make perfect, but it certainly helps!

[Alan de Enfield]

5 minutes ago, TheBiscuits said:

Practice may not make perfect, but it certainly helps!

"The man that never made a mistake, never made anything"

[Wanderer Vagabond]

6 hours ago, ditchcrawler said:

How come you are stuck? I thought all the boats were out, even the one that was high and dry

 

 

6 hours ago, ditchcrawler said:

No other traffic about, whats the problem

At a guess I'd think he is probably at Park Farm moorings so would need to reverse back to the winding hole below bridge 16, which Mr Google says is 2.54miles from his location (it's not even 4 miles from Stanforth lock to the winding hole). With no other traffic on the canal, I'd tend to agree with you that there shouldn't be any problem. It all rather depends upon how keen you are to go boating. When we go offshore sailing it takes us several hours just to prepare and check the boat, an hour an a half of reversing would be a small issue.

[TheBiscuits]

26 minutes ago, Wanderer Vagabond said:

 

At a guess I'd think he is probably at Park Farm moorings so would need to reverse back to the winding hole below bridge 16, which Mr Google says is 2.54miles from his location (it's not even 4 miles from Stanforth lock to the winding hole). With no other traffic on the canal, I'd tend to agree with you that there shouldn't be any problem. It all rather depends upon how keen you are to go boating. When we go offshore sailing it takes us several hours just to prepare and check the boat, an hour an a half of reversing would be a small issue.

Indeed.  Some would rather snipe at CRT that go and do the (quieter than usual) Llangollen or the Shroppie.

[Wanderer Vagabond]

2 minutes ago, TheBiscuits said:

Indeed.  Some would rather snipe at CRT that go and do the (quieter than usual) Llangollen or the Shroppie.

I think that the point is that with unlimited funding the breach could be repaired very quickly, CRT do not have unlimited funding.

[Alan de Enfield]

10 hours ago, Wanderer Vagabond said:

I think that the point is that with unlimited funding the breach could be repaired very quickly, CRT do not have unlimited funding.

Every person, organisation or company has limited funding, the mark of good management is what they do with the funding they have and making it give the best return possible.

I am sure that most boaters would suggest that money spent on 'new signage', additional Directors, duck lanes, poetry on lock-beams etc, would be better spent on preventative maintenance.

 

If the Canals and locks are in such good condition (C&RT annual report) why are they having to 'ash' the L&L locks to stop leakage ?

[Sea Dog]

18 hours ago, TheBiscuits said:

He isn't - he just doesn't want to reverse 4 miles to go anywhere.

The furthest I've reversed is a mile and a half, but it did include 5 locks.  Do I get a sticker or a badge?

[Alan de Enfield]

1 minute ago, Sea Dog said:

The furthest I've reversed is a mile and a half, but it did include 5 locks.  Do I get a sticker or a badge?

[Sea Dog]

3 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:

Thank you!  Where should I stick it...?

[rusty69]

1 minute ago, Sea Dog said:

Thank you!  Where should I stick it...?

Over the other eye. Then you can reverse backwards blind!

[Alan de Enfield]

2 minutes ago, Sea Dog said:

Thank you!  Where should I stick it...?

1 minute ago, rusty69 said:

Over the other eye. Then you can reverse backwards blind!

Then he would be a "Super Sea-Dog"

 

[MtB]

11 hours ago, Wanderer Vagabond said:

When we go offshore sailing it takes us several hours just to prepare and check the boat, an hour an a half of reversing would be a small issue.

 

I'd be mighty impressed by anyone reversing four miles in an hour and a half. Four miles going forwards takes me an hour and a half!

 

I suggest it would take more like a whole day. Possibly a good deal more.

[Sea Dog]

10 minutes ago, rusty69 said:

Over the other eye. Then you can reverse backwards blind!

 

For you, Rusty, that was a very dignified answer which exceeded my expectations.

 

9 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:

Then he would be a "Super Sea-Dog"

 

 

Your first medal offering was most generous, so I'm happy to accept that one and decline the opportunity to upgrade. The roast chicken, however, looks a prize indeed! (That was a Sunday lunch invitation, right?)

[Mike Todd]

20 hours ago, Wanderer Vagabond said:

I think that the point is that with unlimited funding the breach could be repaired very quickly, CRT do not have unlimited funding.

It is really unclear (at least to me) how much faster the breach could be fixed given unlimited funding. To date most of the delay seems to be down to the inevitable planning, legal, regulatory and design issues that all have to be completed before much work can tart. Unless the unlimited funding is intended to be used as bribes to overcome the need to go through these stages (most of which are part of the changes in society that has reduced industrial accidents, reduced rapacious re-development for profit and many other things generally considered 'not a good thing'.)

[b0atman]

18 minutes ago, Mike Todd said:

It is really unclear (at least to me) how much faster the breach could be fixed given unlimited funding. To date most of the delay seems to be down to the inevitable planning, legal, regulatory and design issues that all have to be completed before much work can tart. Unless the unlimited funding is intended to be used as bribes to overcome the need to go through these stages (most of which are part of the changes in society that has reduced industrial accidents, reduced rapacious re-development for profit and many other things generally considered 'not a good thing'.)

I agree if this was a new structure but we are looking at repair of an existing structure here so why all the red tape the contractors should do a risk analysis and CRT should have in place the original scheme of embankment build and watertight bed etc. All this work has been done by engineers long dead so stop redesigning and get on with the job it is easier than when originally built with machinery now available